I have to stop using invisible ink.

Nobody can see what I type.

You need to stop believing what Toby Bridges says, he'll say or do anything for money...

Who do you think is paying him to rag on Hodgdon? Everything on his web site isn't a lie. This is one of them.

I guess you all missed the part about my club tested the powder too? I saw the results. I didn't push it, because the results weren't published. We did it for ourselves.

Ah man! I don't care what you all think. I gave my opinion based on experience. You probably wouldn't believe it's more corrosive than BP either.

Muley Hunter,

You must be wrong. My findings are the same as yours but even worse. I'm never right, you better bail out of this conversation.

cayugad,
This is actually a very good topic. I'm going to assume you mean for inline muzzleloaders.

777 has been by far the best powder to use in an inline ML. It has been more consistent then, Goex, Pyrodex, Pinnacle, and others. Though i hate the crud ring, it's a mute point in a hunting situation.

I will say BH209 would be even better if the Muzzleloaders were built to use it. Way to many problems in most Muzzleloaders built today.

MuleyHunter, I hereby knight you Sir SOT (Stubborn Old Timer).

SEMI, there is a English definition of a SOT also. but i won't go there.

How many Blackhorn 209 shooters have that carbon build up in the plug? And how often do you have to clean that out? I mean you could shoot all day on the range right?

The reason I ask is when I tested Blackhorn 209 I used a Knight Disc Original and it worked great with the orange primers. BUT I was under the impression I did something to ruin the breech plug as after a while I started getting bad ignition. I was not even aware of this carbon build up I have read about. I now believe that is what happened to the Disc breech plug. Also the face of the breech plug was basically eaten up. But I believe the fact that I was re using the orange primer jackets and there was blow back, was causing that. And now that there is no access to Blackhorn 209 in my area... I can not test my theory again.

How many shots do you think it was before things started going bad?

cayugad

This just my opinion and that is all I am speaking to. I was not even going to get into this thread because, very few are going to agree, including myself.

Rock sparkers... all I use is GOEX... again because of availablity.

When it comes to to shooting cap ignition, I really am stuck on T7, it is readily available and it is priced roght for my world - $20/lb. It provides me with a margin of safety in the manner that I shoot and clean my guns especially during hunting season, as it is not even as corrosive as some would lead you to believe and certainly less corrosive than the other subs or real BP.

Inlines... I do use T7 for the same reason as listed above. But in all honesty... I do believe BH is great powder and if it were priced more accordingly I am sure that I would use it in my 209 guns... but I do have a slight problem, I have recently picked up a couple #11 guns, along with my White, and you know I really like shooting them, so T7 is the diet there. Even more interesting now is the fact that Knight has available a kit that will allow you to shoot caps from your DISC Extremes or Elites and you know shooting #11's is not really that bad - a bit dirty but really it works just as well for ignition as does 209's...

BH in your DISC Original.... with the Orange DISC, I can see where there might be some gas cutting/etching with that set up as some leakage at the cap and BP should probably be expected and for that matter as well with the Red FPJ, when using the hot primers and then adding the heat of the blow back into the equation. The physical heat produced by BH is much greater than the heat of T7. This is really noticable when shooting on warmer days.

With the Lehigh conversion kit installed, you should be able to sit down and shoot 50 shots and not show much of anything in the breech or in the BP, the shape of the Lehigh vent liner aids in shedding some of the blow back off to the sides of the flash hole and out of the flash channel. Of course with the quality of metal used for the BP it would very difficult to do anything with other polish it.