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12-17-2010, 06:15 PM
#12
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
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They look like this
I used them in my 54 this year with 120gr BH209. They are designed for a 458SOCOM M4/M16 "upper" and roughly 1900fps. About $42 for 50 and yes it is over priced but they shot great with a max load. Knocked the snot out of 2 deer this year also.
A 50-300gr GD/DC would probably have done just as well at under 150 yards for half the cost. I like my Barnes but GoldDots/DeepCurls are extremely predictable and consistent on impact.
I used them in my 54 this year with 120gr BH209. They are designed for a 458SOCOM M4/M16 "upper" and roughly 1900fps. About $42 for 50 and yes it is over priced but they shot great with a max load. Knocked the snot out of 2 deer this year also.
A 50-300gr GD/DC would probably have done just as well at under 150 yards for half the cost. I like my Barnes but GoldDots/DeepCurls are extremely predictable and consistent on impact.
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12-17-2010, 06:54 PM
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Yucca Valley,Ca
Posts: 2,496
They look like this
I used them in my 54 this year with 120gr BH209. They are designed for a 458SOCOM M4/M16 "upper" and roughly 1900fps. About $42 for 50 and yes it is over priced but they shot great with a max load. Knocked the snot out of 2 deer this year also.
A 50-300gr GD/DC would probably have done just as well at under 150 yards for half the cost. I like my Barnes but GoldDots/DeepCurls are extremely predictable and consistent on impact.
I used them in my 54 this year with 120gr BH209. They are designed for a 458SOCOM M4/M16 "upper" and roughly 1900fps. About $42 for 50 and yes it is over priced but they shot great with a max load. Knocked the snot out of 2 deer this year also.
A 50-300gr GD/DC would probably have done just as well at under 150 yards for half the cost. I like my Barnes but GoldDots/DeepCurls are extremely predictable and consistent on impact.
12-17-2010, 07:08 PM
#14
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,605
builder459
That bullet was my "toy" i played with this year. It shot so well with a max load i had to try it in the field. The little 54 carbine actually out shot my Extreme 50 with the same bullet.
The 45-300gr DC/GD should work great over a wide range too. I prefer to push them just a little hard...110gr roughly depending on groups.
That bullet was my "toy" i played with this year. It shot so well with a max load i had to try it in the field. The little 54 carbine actually out shot my Extreme 50 with the same bullet.
The 45-300gr DC/GD should work great over a wide range too. I prefer to push them just a little hard...110gr roughly depending on groups.
12-17-2010, 07:26 PM
#15
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585
Well since I had trouble with getting the Barns to open at close range and high velocity I have been using Gold Dot or Deep Curl 250 gr as they are now call I use 110 in one gun and 115 in an other of Blackhorn. Hit just about the heat all the deer I have shot with them have dropped on the spot of course part of the reason for that is where they are hit. There Is no bullet that will turn a poor hit into a good one.
For bigger animals I would use the 300 gr or a Lehigh bullet in the 275 gr and up range but the 250 Deep Curl is a very nice balance to deer and Boar. I normally have a very nice exit hole so I really don't know what more you could ask of a bullet.
For bigger animals I would use the 300 gr or a Lehigh bullet in the 275 gr and up range but the 250 Deep Curl is a very nice balance to deer and Boar. I normally have a very nice exit hole so I really don't know what more you could ask of a bullet.
12-18-2010, 07:58 AM
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Yucca Valley,Ca
Posts: 2,496
Well since I had trouble with getting the Barns to open at close range and high velocity I have been using Gold Dot or Deep Curl 250 gr as they are now call I use 110 in one gun and 115 in an other of Blackhorn. Hit just about the heat all the deer I have shot with them have dropped on the spot of course part of the reason for that is where they are hit. There Is no bullet that will turn a poor hit into a good one.
For bigger animals I would use the 300 gr or a Lehigh bullet in the 275 gr and up range but the 250 Deep Curl is a very nice balance to deer and Boar. I normally have a very nice exit hole so I really don't know what more you could ask of a bullet.
For bigger animals I would use the 300 gr or a Lehigh bullet in the 275 gr and up range but the 250 Deep Curl is a very nice balance to deer and Boar. I normally have a very nice exit hole so I really don't know what more you could ask of a bullet.
12-18-2010, 08:01 AM
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Yucca Valley,Ca
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builder459
That bullet was my "toy" i played with this year. It shot so well with a max load i had to try it in the field. The little 54 carbine actually out shot my Extreme 50 with the same bullet.
The 45-300gr DC/GD should work great over a wide range too. I prefer to push them just a little hard...110gr roughly depending on groups.
That bullet was my "toy" i played with this year. It shot so well with a max load i had to try it in the field. The little 54 carbine actually out shot my Extreme 50 with the same bullet.
The 45-300gr DC/GD should work great over a wide range too. I prefer to push them just a little hard...110gr roughly depending on groups.
it, sabotloader and now you have confirmed that. thanks Ray
12-18-2010, 11:50 AM
#19
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,605
builder459
Accuracy is a big part of it but IMO you wont be able to push the 300gr too hard. It will perform predictably no matter how hard you push it in a ML.
The 250gr with its huge deep hollow point might not do as well with heavy charges if the range is really close. Thats a BIG might since i have never confirmed my theory. I prefer the 250gr with around 80-100gr if there is a big chance of a really close shots. If it is more likely you will be shooting a bit further (100-150yards), either should perform very well. Past 150 yards i almost always go with a heavier bullet.
I just prefer to keep a bullet close to its designed velocity at impact.
Its only my opinion that the 300gr will get the job done at any reasonable distance with the heavier charges. More recoil IMO would be the only negative. Another reason i like the 300gr is, you can buy an even cheaper Uni-Cor 300gr soft point for practice.
Accuracy is a big part of it but IMO you wont be able to push the 300gr too hard. It will perform predictably no matter how hard you push it in a ML.
The 250gr with its huge deep hollow point might not do as well with heavy charges if the range is really close. Thats a BIG might since i have never confirmed my theory. I prefer the 250gr with around 80-100gr if there is a big chance of a really close shots. If it is more likely you will be shooting a bit further (100-150yards), either should perform very well. Past 150 yards i almost always go with a heavier bullet.
I just prefer to keep a bullet close to its designed velocity at impact.
Its only my opinion that the 300gr will get the job done at any reasonable distance with the heavier charges. More recoil IMO would be the only negative. Another reason i like the 300gr is, you can buy an even cheaper Uni-Cor 300gr soft point for practice.
12-18-2010, 05:34 PM
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Yucca Valley,Ca
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builder459
Accuracy is a big part of it but IMO you wont be able to push the 300gr too hard. It will perform predictably no matter how hard you push it in a ML.
The 250gr with its huge deep hollow point might not do as well with heavy charges if the range is really close. Thats a BIG might since i have never confirmed my theory. I prefer the 250gr with around 80-100gr if there is a big chance of a really close shots. If it is more likely you will be shooting a bit further (100-150yards), either should perform very well. Past 150 yards i almost always go with a heavier bullet.
I just prefer to keep a bullet close to its designed velocity at impact.
Its only my opinion that the 300gr will get the job done at any reasonable distance with the heavier charges. More recoil IMO would be the only negative. Another reason i like the 300gr is, you can buy an even cheaper Uni-Cor 300gr soft point for practice.
Accuracy is a big part of it but IMO you wont be able to push the 300gr too hard. It will perform predictably no matter how hard you push it in a ML.
The 250gr with its huge deep hollow point might not do as well with heavy charges if the range is really close. Thats a BIG might since i have never confirmed my theory. I prefer the 250gr with around 80-100gr if there is a big chance of a really close shots. If it is more likely you will be shooting a bit further (100-150yards), either should perform very well. Past 150 yards i almost always go with a heavier bullet.
I just prefer to keep a bullet close to its designed velocity at impact.
Its only my opinion that the 300gr will get the job done at any reasonable distance with the heavier charges. More recoil IMO would be the only negative. Another reason i like the 300gr is, you can buy an even cheaper Uni-Cor 300gr soft point for practice.
Ray