And for the record, Thors are my most favorite bullets


Load up just as easy as a powerbelt and can be pushed with smokeless powder loads.

And your point is? look at what you typed lol..again you typed negative information on a product other than a CVA!..i didn't say i wanted to beat you up? did I? mountain your spiel on CVA and PB's doesn't bother people who are informed and know who and what you stand for! it's the people that are just entering the sport that concerns me.you really just don't get it do you? your so self absorbed in YOU and what YOU think you could care less if the bullets you push, are and i will be "nice" questionable? again be honest at least to the newcomers entering this sport! until that times comes, expect me to expose you for what you truly are!

thors are not lead,which PB's are and the conversation had nothing to do with copper! i prefer the barnes when not shooting lead.

Oh this should be real interesting!

exactly what the Thors are. Barnes but only in full bore diameter

Sad.If I was new to this forum and read all this crap I would never join.MountainDevil54 states his preferences and gives HIS advice to people who ask for advice.All anyone else should be doing in response is giving theirs.I believe a better response to a Powerbelt being pushed with a magnum load would be to "advise" that "Most reviews state,and I believe,a 245 grain Powerbelt should not be fired with any more than a particular amount of any certain powder to achieve it's best,yet nominal,performance.On the other hand,I believe a much better load for that gun would be such and such."This statement is much less abrasive and does not sound like an attack on anyone.Hence the original poster with the question is not scared away by argumentative remarks.

Pluckit - you really need to know the history here going back years and not judge from your short time here. The gentle, diplomatic approach has a long history of not working in one particular case. He was even banned at one time - couldn't handle it and came back under a new name. Many let it go most times, but just need to call it sometimes like it is.

Most all who get stuff to test and review are honest and upfront about it to a fault. One is not - it needs to be pulled from him and there never once is full disclosure - just non commital maybes. It more then slightly casts doubts on the ensuing reviews and rightfully so - especially when it's not unusual for them to be completely different then what others experiance.

Just some history.

Pluckit, If you think that was being abrasive you haven't seen abrasive. I was trying to gently nudge Jon into stating what practically everybody on here already knows, that they should not be pushed that hard. I think powerbelts can work just fine with the right load I aint bashing them. However I will say that pure lead conicals will do a better job at a fraction of the cost if that makes any difference to you.

if u look through the history will you basically see the SAME guys giving me crap all those years and still to this date.

I even went traditional all year, sold my inlines just to get away from the jacks. They then gave me crap for using patched round balls LOL. Go figure

My point is this.The person who started this thread,"hammerdown45", has not posted again in the thread he started and I wouldn't doubt it is because of the things I have been talking about.It doesn't matter.I'm through with it.I don't think you people understand what I'm getting at.