The Knight 52 is all you need.
09-04-2010 | 01:40 PM
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Nontypical Buck
Joined: Mar 2009
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From: Saxonburg Pa
The Knight 52 is all you need.
When i first got this Knight 52 LRH i wasn't thrilled about using 300grn bullets on Deer. After shooting so much game and understanding the Lehigh design it's just not needed.
I was talking to Sabotloader and he said boy, it would be nice if Dave made a light .458 220grn bullet or heavier for the Knight 52. Well it didn't take me long to buy into that. That was a great idea and now i got to get Dave to agree. Well, that part was easy and i had bullets in the mail box on Friday.
The bullet ended up being a .458 220grn bullet. And yes they are pretty.
I'm going to show some different picks of it right now.
As you can see, the bullet is short and fat. Now this bullet probably wont set any records with a BC, but at 200 yards and under, it wont much matter.
I did Chrono this bullet at the Muzzle, 100 yards, and 200 yards. I will post the numbers below. I did not work up the BC yet. Maybe someone else can beat me to it.
ML-Knight 52cal LRH
Bullet- .458 220grn Lehigh
Sabot- Knight grey .458/52 sabot
Primer- Federal 209A
Powder- 130grns by volume BH209
Temp- 62 degrees
Wind- 15mph
Chrono- ProChrono using 5 shot averages at all distances.
MV-2163 avg
100yard velocity-1621 avg
200yard velocity-1258 avg
Now to the good part. This bullet was extremely accurate. I alway's expect Elites to shoot like this and i wasn't let down at all. Of course this is not an Elite, it's a LRH with the forked recoil lug like the Elite.
On the pic below you will actually see two groups. After shooting the first bullet high i lowered the scope. Now i had another target up before getting the bullet ready in case you are wondering. Now the next 5 shots are just cutting the bull out. I was overly impressed to say the least. The Chrono is right under that group as well. Now the three shots right of the bull is a another story.
Now i take the Chrono and place it under the target at 200yards. I take 5 shots thru the chrono and go get the readings. I dont no what happened to that picture??? So now i bring the chrono back to 100yards and shoot three more times. For some reason this 3 shot group moved slightly right of the bull. It was very windy but i was a little confused. Probably how i held the ML.
I also want to mention about sabots. I never look at sabots or care what they look like. My concerns are the accuracy and consistencies of the MV of the bullet sabot combination. I did so much shooting i could not help but notice all these grey sabots with the petals sheared off. I mean completely off. Just a bunch of the cups of the sabot laying around. Here's a pic of what i'm talking about.
I can assure you, as bad as those sabots look, that in no way effected my accuracy at 100yds or two hundred yards.
BTW- This same gun in a 1/24 twist would be awesome. The 1/26 is good, but a 1/24 would be the ticket with out a doubt. It would shoot the long bullets even better, and the short bullets will just punch out holes.
I was talking to Sabotloader and he said boy, it would be nice if Dave made a light .458 220grn bullet or heavier for the Knight 52. Well it didn't take me long to buy into that. That was a great idea and now i got to get Dave to agree. Well, that part was easy and i had bullets in the mail box on Friday.
The bullet ended up being a .458 220grn bullet. And yes they are pretty.
I'm going to show some different picks of it right now.As you can see, the bullet is short and fat. Now this bullet probably wont set any records with a BC, but at 200 yards and under, it wont much matter.
I did Chrono this bullet at the Muzzle, 100 yards, and 200 yards. I will post the numbers below. I did not work up the BC yet. Maybe someone else can beat me to it.
ML-Knight 52cal LRH
Bullet- .458 220grn Lehigh
Sabot- Knight grey .458/52 sabot
Primer- Federal 209A
Powder- 130grns by volume BH209
Temp- 62 degrees
Wind- 15mph
Chrono- ProChrono using 5 shot averages at all distances.
MV-2163 avg
100yard velocity-1621 avg
200yard velocity-1258 avg
Now to the good part. This bullet was extremely accurate. I alway's expect Elites to shoot like this and i wasn't let down at all. Of course this is not an Elite, it's a LRH with the forked recoil lug like the Elite.
On the pic below you will actually see two groups. After shooting the first bullet high i lowered the scope. Now i had another target up before getting the bullet ready in case you are wondering. Now the next 5 shots are just cutting the bull out. I was overly impressed to say the least. The Chrono is right under that group as well. Now the three shots right of the bull is a another story.
Now i take the Chrono and place it under the target at 200yards. I take 5 shots thru the chrono and go get the readings. I dont no what happened to that picture??? So now i bring the chrono back to 100yards and shoot three more times. For some reason this 3 shot group moved slightly right of the bull. It was very windy but i was a little confused. Probably how i held the ML.
I also want to mention about sabots. I never look at sabots or care what they look like. My concerns are the accuracy and consistencies of the MV of the bullet sabot combination. I did so much shooting i could not help but notice all these grey sabots with the petals sheared off. I mean completely off. Just a bunch of the cups of the sabot laying around. Here's a pic of what i'm talking about.
I can assure you, as bad as those sabots look, that in no way effected my accuracy at 100yds or two hundred yards.
BTW- This same gun in a 1/24 twist would be awesome. The 1/26 is good, but a 1/24 would be the ticket with out a doubt. It would shoot the long bullets even better, and the short bullets will just punch out holes.
Last edited by Grouse45; 09-04-2010 at 01:46 PM.
09-04-2010 | 02:10 PM
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Boone & Crockett
Joined: Aug 2004
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From: Idaho
Grouse45
AWESOME
You would not think that little bullet would work that well... but I did have a hunch it might...
Gotta git me some of them - no wait a minute I am not giving up my 45's...
But Knight should be jumping up and down with joy... Finally versitility for the 52....
I tolt you the other day you worrry to much about sabots... it is all about fit and I know you know what the fit should feel like...
Did you even notice the canurelling rings on the bullet??? They are straight up and done instead of on an angle as the past bullets have been.... Why? they should grip the sabot better - no slipping in the sabot ='s better stabilization... another new improvement that would not be noticed by many...
AWESOME
You would not think that little bullet would work that well... but I did have a hunch it might...
Gotta git me some of them - no wait a minute I am not giving up my 45's...
But Knight should be jumping up and down with joy... Finally versitility for the 52....
I tolt you the other day you worrry to much about sabots... it is all about fit and I know you know what the fit should feel like...
Did you even notice the canurelling rings on the bullet??? They are straight up and done instead of on an angle as the past bullets have been.... Why? they should grip the sabot better - no slipping in the sabot ='s better stabilization... another new improvement that would not be noticed by many...
09-04-2010 | 03:02 PM
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Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,037
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From: Minnesota
Looks good. Real good. If you guys want to get rid of your guns in all those other inferior calibers just pm me and I will get you my address, Heck I will even pay the shipping!
That is some awesome shooting with those itty bitty bullets!
Art
That is some awesome shooting with those itty bitty bullets!
Art
09-04-2010 | 04:15 PM
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Dominant Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,193
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From: Wisconsin
That is some very good shooting. Also, you have guts to risk your chronograph like that. Also some impressive velocities. Should make a good antelope load. I'd shoot them big ones into white tail. Good shooting again.
