Well last night ( 5pm) the big brown truck showed up and left a box. It was the Knight . It is one of the most beautiful guns I've seen. I absolutely love the stock. It was very well packaged ( thanks Art). Everything wrapped in bubble wrap and secured real well. I unpacked it and went to put it together but none of my Breechplug wrenches were small enough to install the breechplug. That was a bummer. I tried 4 different wrenched but the outside diameter was to big,. Finally I got a flash of genius ( not often that happens) and ground one of the Disc breechplug wrenches down til the outside diameter was small enough. I put the gun together and can hardly wait til I shoot it. Although it looks so nice I almost don't want to shoot it. After receiving this gun I also developed a theory on purchasing used muzzleloaders. I will share that in a different thread. I didn't post a picture since Art posted one when he mentioned selling it. It is beautiful though.

Glad you like it Chet. When I bought that gun it came with the slotted breech plug but no wrench. Luckily, I had a wrench from an lk-93 that worked. I later bought the hex head breech plug that I included with the gun, I always used the wrench from my disc extreme or a 1/4 inch drive socket. If you pull the trigger back your disc extreme wrench ought to work I think.
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I tried a socket and the wrench from the extreme. They were a little to big , they wouldn't go through the section where the bolt screwed in. Once I ground the outside of the wrench down then it was fine. The bolt on the extreme must be a bit bigger than the plunger bolt on the Mk85.

I was actually thinking of getting one of those as well. Cant wait to see your range results.

Good luck with your new rifle. I am sure the MK will be a very good shooter from all I have read about them.

I may have a second breechpug tool. If I do then I could let you have it. I'll check later tonight. That gun is gorgeous. I have the shadow green stock. Knight nailed it with those laminated stocks.

Normally you need to pull the trigger to allow the breech plug tool into the breech. The breech plug or the tool can get hung up on the trigger when putting them in. So always hold the trigger back when inserting anything into the MK-85.

You will learn to love that rifle. It may take one extra minute to clean it over an Encore. But I have never seen an Encore that will shoot with an MK-85. And the MK-85 will shoot whatever you decide to load in it, they are not finicky.

Which ignition system did you get. #11??

I may have an extra musket cap ignition system laying around if you or someone else might want to buy it. I changed my two MK-85's to musket cap ignition. I like it as well as my 209 ignition rifles. Probably better because it is considerably hotter than #11's, but not as hot as a 209-which IMO at times is too hot. Tom.

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I had/have to do the same thing with my mid 90s era LK93 which is similar. Usually i need to pull the trigger to get a socket or tool on the breach plug and get it out too.

It may be a bit harder to clean than some guns but it does shoot very well with just about anything i stuff it in. Cleaning time differences are so minimal i dont care and its always the one i grab when i just want to have some fun.

This is one design that to me that cleaning it is a "labor of love".

I didn't have the trigger assembly attached . The wrench was just to big. It only went about 1/2 inch or less, about to where the threads were for the bolt to screw in. It was just bigger than the inside diameter of the barrel.Once I ground down the outside of the wrench it fit ok. I am going to mic it later today and see.