Range Report
08-27-2009, 03:36 AM
#31
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hyde Park, Utah
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Inrecordbookbuck
I have replaced 3 Omega and 1 Triumph breach plugs from flame cutting at the touch hole. Never had any problem with the rings or the "O" ring but when the accuracy falls off the first thing I check is the size of that hole and when it gets cut out and I replace that plug and the accuracy is right back where it should be, I assume I did the right thing. Lee
I have replaced 3 Omega and 1 Triumph breach plugs from flame cutting at the touch hole. Never had any problem with the rings or the "O" ring but when the accuracy falls off the first thing I check is the size of that hole and when it gets cut out and I replace that plug and the accuracy is right back where it should be, I assume I did the right thing. Lee
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08-27-2009, 07:36 AM
#32
Giant Nontypical
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Utah Rob,
Agreed there can be a problem there, that's one of the reasons we enlarge the flame channel when we do the conversion [it then absorbs more of the pressure] when we do the conversion. The other thing I have found is that primer pockets and how tight the breach closes affects that. I look for the right fit by trying different primers and one fellow in the club had a problem that did not fix and I had to put a thin shin under the block that holds the firing pin to push it out more to ward the primer so it would hold it well enough to seal. Lee
Agreed there can be a problem there, that's one of the reasons we enlarge the flame channel when we do the conversion [it then absorbs more of the pressure] when we do the conversion. The other thing I have found is that primer pockets and how tight the breach closes affects that. I look for the right fit by trying different primers and one fellow in the club had a problem that did not fix and I had to put a thin shin under the block that holds the firing pin to push it out more to ward the primer so it would hold it well enough to seal. Lee
08-27-2009, 10:44 AM
#34
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Grouse,
The tolerances between the breach plug and the block that holds the firing pin all go in the wrong direction causes that in about one in 200 Encores as far as I know the best answer is to shim the block out, it is an easy fix. The other possibility is the primer pocket is just to big. Some times using Winchester 209 for shot shell primers helps as they are the longest primer. Mostly the combination of the tolerances of the breach plug the barrel position and the firing pin block all go in the same direction on the same gun it just adds up to enough so that the primer is not held in place and so it blows back. Lee
The tolerances between the breach plug and the block that holds the firing pin all go in the wrong direction causes that in about one in 200 Encores as far as I know the best answer is to shim the block out, it is an easy fix. The other possibility is the primer pocket is just to big. Some times using Winchester 209 for shot shell primers helps as they are the longest primer. Mostly the combination of the tolerances of the breach plug the barrel position and the firing pin block all go in the same direction on the same gun it just adds up to enough so that the primer is not held in place and so it blows back. Lee
08-27-2009, 10:55 AM
#35
Fork Horn
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Location: Hyde Park, Utah
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lemoyne,
That picture of the Encore above seems like alot of blow back. I have owned two of them and had nothing like that at all. I wonder if that plug is wore out or poor machining????
That picture of the Encore above seems like alot of blow back. I have owned two of them and had nothing like that at all. I wonder if that plug is wore out or poor machining????
08-27-2009, 11:43 AM
#36
Nontypical Buck
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UtahRob
After hunting season i would send that ML back to T/C with the standard plug in it. They will/should fix that problem for you. After they fix the problem you could go back to your ACP plug or stick with 209's.
After hunting season i would send that ML back to T/C with the standard plug in it. They will/should fix that problem for you. After they fix the problem you could go back to your ACP plug or stick with 209's.
08-27-2009, 04:59 PM
#37
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UtahRob
After hunting season i would send that ML back to T/C with the standard plug in it. They will/should fix that problem for you. After they fix the problem you could go back to your ACP plug or stick with 209's.
After hunting season i would send that ML back to T/C with the standard plug in it. They will/should fix that problem for you. After they fix the problem you could go back to your ACP plug or stick with 209's.
Lee
