BlackHorn 209 powder
06-20-2009 | 08:35 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: BlackHorn 209 powder
ORIGINAL: Powerfisher
It was very hard to seat a TMZ after ten shots or so. The bore on my Omega is tight as it is and even with swabbing its goes down pretty hard. I have tried the Harvester Crushed Rib, Knight sabots (black and green), SST sabots and S/W sabots. They do go down a bit easier but then the accuracy goes to crap. With the barnes, I have found the the sabots that come with the barnes give me the best results but I almost have to stand on them to get them down. Not a bad thing, just after 10 or so shots with the BH209 and seating a TMZ is nearly impossible. Just my own personal experience. Nothing I have tried so far has groups like the sabot that comes with the TMZ. They shoot better than S/Ws and SSTs. I have been reading my sabots and you can really see a difference.
ORIGINAL: lemoyne
Powerfisher
What brought you to the conclusion that you needed to swab? I have shot for two days in a row to see if if made any differance and it seem to me to load just as well and maintain trhe same level of accuracy. I did clean the carbon out of the breach plug about every 12 shots, Lee
Powerfisher
What brought you to the conclusion that you needed to swab? I have shot for two days in a row to see if if made any differance and it seem to me to load just as well and maintain trhe same level of accuracy. I did clean the carbon out of the breach plug about every 12 shots, Lee
06-20-2009 | 01:02 PM
#23
Fork Horn
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From: Lake Tahoe
RE: BlackHorn 209 powder
I never thought about that. Some of the bullets didnt even hit the paper and one had a bad cant to it. Looks like it wentthrough sideways. Thanks. Do you think my cast bullets have a simular problem? I cant keep a group at 100yds to save my life. 50yds andim on paper but nothing to brag about.I have tried all the sabots I mentioned earlier. I really dont want to buy spendy bullets like S/Ws or SSTs for paper punching, I would much rather cast my own. Also, do you think instead of a 250gr I should cast 300gr? I will be using the 290gr TMZ for hunting with a BH209 load of 110grains.
06-20-2009 | 02:25 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: BlackHorn 209 powder
Powerfisher
Normally if you size your bullets so they are all the same, and keep your velocity down to about 1600fps they will shot as good as anything else. Lee
Normally if you size your bullets so they are all the same, and keep your velocity down to about 1600fps they will shot as good as anything else. Lee
06-20-2009 | 03:01 PM
#25
Fork Horn
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From: Lake Tahoe
RE: BlackHorn 209 powder
Ummm, size my bullets? I thought I can shoot them right out of the cast. My cast is a aluminum Lee 250gr ML cast. I thought I read that sizeing wasnt necessary. I recon I better read the directions again. I know you have to size bullets for reloading but for BP too? It seems like I have a few factors in this equation. Great, now I have to purge more information in my memory so I can absorb more about MLing. Well, there goes my wedding anniversary date, and my yearly doctor visit.....that ones not so bad, yearlys are.......uncomfortable anyhow. [:@]
06-20-2009 | 05:10 PM
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RE: BlackHorn 209 powder
Powerfisher
I shot them in some competition for a while and found that sized and weight do make a difference. If you don't size them and you don't control the temperature real well there will be a difference in the pressure the bullet put on the sabot and there for the resistance of the sabot will change from load to load the powder will burn at a different speed and pressure and the poi will wander some. Lee
That changes the whip of the barrel to.
I shot them in some competition for a while and found that sized and weight do make a difference. If you don't size them and you don't control the temperature real well there will be a difference in the pressure the bullet put on the sabot and there for the resistance of the sabot will change from load to load the powder will burn at a different speed and pressure and the poi will wander some. Lee
That changes the whip of the barrel to.
06-20-2009 | 06:10 PM
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RE: BlackHorn 209 powder
Spitpatch
Most of us have at one time or an other. In some guns the hotter primers work better, and in some the standard ones work better. If I ever have a misfire or a hang fire the first thing I will do is make sure the fire channel is clear if it is then I will start thinking about if there was grease or oil on the hammer or firing pin if its cold, I used to live in northern IL and hunt in WI andCO and Wyoming and I learned to degrease before I loaded to hunt. Lee
Most of us have at one time or an other. In some guns the hotter primers work better, and in some the standard ones work better. If I ever have a misfire or a hang fire the first thing I will do is make sure the fire channel is clear if it is then I will start thinking about if there was grease or oil on the hammer or firing pin if its cold, I used to live in northern IL and hunt in WI andCO and Wyoming and I learned to degrease before I loaded to hunt. Lee
