Accuracy? how much, to what level?
#32
Since I started BP shooting, I was more or less brainwashed by all the hype that different manufactures put out to the public. Then I got on this site and started to take everybodies word as law. I have noticed that my Omega likes a heavier bullet. I was shooting 250gr and even bought a mold for them so I can cast my own. Well, my friend has a ML and the last time we were at the range he was shooting 300gr cast bullets. He finally talked me into loading one in my T/C and holy crap! What a difference it made. On a bench, peep sight at 100yds with a 250gr cast, I was lucky to keep it at a 3" MOA, more like 4". That has now shrunk to a consistant 2" MOA with the 300gr and I am stoked. I just ordered a bunch of 290gr Barnes TMZs. I hope they are as consistant as the cast. Consistant accuracy in a ML is not as easy as I thought, but I think I may be onto something. I remember that (I think it was Dave that said) the BH209 is designed for a heavier bullet. He was right. The more I learn, the less I know. I got rained out of my last range day so I hope I can get back next week and give you all a good report about my experience.
#33
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Illinois
I'm real happy with my CVA Wolf shooting 300gr Barnes Expander MZ's. 1 inch groups at 100 yards. I just wish I could have more range time to work the kinks out of my KRB7.
#34
When I'm sighting in a ml or rifle I use my lead sled. I want to take as much of the guess work out as possible and see how tight of groups that I can hold. Sometimes I dont always get what I want, but I like my ml to shoot 2 or under and my centerfires 1.5 or better. In reality a ml that will hold a 3 inch group will take a deer cleanly.
#35
Spike
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: PA
This, at 100 yards;


But really, all that tells me is that when everything comes together perfectly, this is what could be done. I have never experienced the same set of perfect variables while hunting.
The way I look at it is, I have about an 18" circle to hit while hunting, I have yet to find a rifle that I could not tune well enough to consistently place a fatal shot in an area that large. I think we owe it to the animal to be the most proficient we can be. For some that may be under MOA and others that may be 4". They both work.
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But really, all that tells me is that when everything comes together perfectly, this is what could be done. I have never experienced the same set of perfect variables while hunting.
The way I look at it is, I have about an 18" circle to hit while hunting, I have yet to find a rifle that I could not tune well enough to consistently place a fatal shot in an area that large. I think we owe it to the animal to be the most proficient we can be. For some that may be under MOA and others that may be 4". They both work.
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#36
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Illinois
ORIGINAL: Reese260
This, at 100 yards;


But really, all that tells me is that when everything comes together perfectly, this is what could be done. I have never experienced the same set of perfect variables while hunting.
The way I look at it is, I have about an 18" circle to hit while hunting, I have yet to find a rifle that I could not tune well enough to consistently place a fatal shot in an area that large. I think we owe it to the animal to be the most proficient we can be. For some that may be under MOA and others that may be 4". They both work.
Edit - will read up on how to post picture.
Okay - figured it out - image not IMG
This, at 100 yards;


But really, all that tells me is that when everything comes together perfectly, this is what could be done. I have never experienced the same set of perfect variables while hunting.
The way I look at it is, I have about an 18" circle to hit while hunting, I have yet to find a rifle that I could not tune well enough to consistently place a fatal shot in an area that large. I think we owe it to the animal to be the most proficient we can be. For some that may be under MOA and others that may be 4". They both work.
Edit - will read up on how to post picture.
Okay - figured it out - image not IMG
#38
Spike
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: PA
I was using a Ruger 77/50, 85gr FFFg T7, 250 gr SST, Harvester short black sabot, CCI #11 cap and Nikon ProStaff 2-7x32mm. When I put in the time, I get good groups but that was the best ever. I had to walk up to the target to figure out where they went cause my cheap spotting scope could not focus well enough. On a good day, that rifle and I can keep them around an inch at 100 yards.
#39
Spike
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: PA
I save these pictures for the guys who tell me that muzzleloaders are not very accurate. So bear with me as I share two more. Yes that is an aperature sight and shot at 100 yards from a bench. It started out as a great two shot group and I thought - "No Way!" Then the classic shot #3 choke. I then proceeded to choke on #4. Then after I had a good laugh at myself, #5 layed right in there. It's a well made MK85 that I found the sweet spot for. I save my targets in a three ring binder so you will see two other holes up the left side of the target.

I may soon just shoot two shot groups and say that I am conserving resources.

Practice - Practice - Practice
Edit - spelling

I may soon just shoot two shot groups and say that I am conserving resources.


Practice - Practice - Practice
Edit - spelling



