http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=NK8 404&prodTitle=Nikon%20OMEGA%20Muzzleloading%20 Scope%203%209X40%20Matte

there is the link

What's your Opinion on the two scopes, Nikon vs Leupold?

I have one very old Leupold and it is a fantastic scope. It has never let me down. Now I use Nikon Pro Staff scopes on two of my muzzleloaders and I really like them. They have great glass, excellent clarity, light gathering, and seem tuff as nails. The Omega is considered a better class then the Pro Staff model. And the Nikons are less money then the old Leupolds were. Now some of the new Leupolds that are hitting the market are competitive in price to the other scopes. But I do not own any. I have heard a lot of good things about the Leupold Ultimate Slam, Nikon Omega, and Bushnell Elite all of them being good scopes. Which is better? I am the wrong person to ask.

Are these scopes from Natchez refurbished ?



Ok now i see these are not the bdc retc. are they?

Right.. they do not have the BDC which to me is not a big deal. I hunted a long time before such a thing came on the market and will keep on hunting without one for a long time to come.

Can't you use the small plug screws you removed toinstall the scope mounts? They should fitthe rear sight holes.

Yes the Nikon (BDC) and the Leupold (SABR) are more of a LONG RANGE SCOPE. If you shots are under say 125yds then I see no need for this type of scope. I myself really was skeptical when I first purchased the Leupold as I wondered to myself, is this what I really need, am I gonna need a scope for shots over 150yds to 300yds, probably not. But it does have it's pluses. The scope still can be used as a fixed retical, just forget the lower long range bars and use the center retical as a fixed power retical like any other scope. But if you need it the longer bars are there, and it's nice to know without guessing on a shot that you'll be on if needed. It's all preferance. So I guess you have to ask yourself if you really need a scope for ranges out to 300yds. Is a 300yd shot ethical with a ML for Hunting, NO, is 250yds? Mabey, it all depends on the shooter. But in 90% of cases a Fixed Retical Scope is more practical for ML Hunting. So Dave I guess I would side with you on this one as being able to live with out the BDC or SABR for ML'ers. But now I have one and will use it, it's not my only scope on a ML'er but If I never bought it I'd get along just fine without it.