I started w/ a Wolf and got hooked on this type of hunting. It changed the way I shoot and set up a hunt. I wanted something a little better , not that anything is wrong w/ the Wolf, I still hunt w/it in brush areas or long walks in woods.
I hefted the Omega, Triumph and Pro Hunter. Endeavor wasn't out yet.
Omega felt pretty good but i kept hearing it was going to be replaced by the Triumph. I did not want a discontinued gun.

Triumph - I am 6'4" and that gun did not feel right. The neck on the stock was uncomforatable for me. Nice looking and what I was going for originally. I just did not like the feel when I held it.

Pro Hunter- I got the thumb hole SS and am very pleased. 1/4 twist on the breach plug to remove. Cleaning is easy and I am very please w/ accuracy. I do better than 2 imches at 100 yards and ifa good day I can do 1inch at 100 yards. It is me, not the gun. I am shooting all kinds of powders and loads out of it and having a blast. I have not bought another barrel yet, but plan on doinfg so in 2009. More for a varmint than deer gun.

I think that most all the guns in the hands of a competent shooter will performflawlessly. I am not a bench shooter, but shoot from a bench. I like shooting well, but am no hole in a hole shooter. Good Luck.

Flybub,

Please see my range report at the bottom of the page - Encore PH range report. Off of a sand bag rest I shot one inch and sub one inch groups. Now I think that's pretty good. I'm looking forward to getting a "rest" and a can of Blackhorn 209 for Christmas. I'll post the results then, but if the groups tighten up I'm not sure what else we want? I mean, sub-one inch groups consistantly from a MZ that gives you the flexibility to switch barrels out (and have a new gun) is pretty sporty.

Of course, just my two cents.

Hammer

I'd sure like to know how you're SO certain that blackhorn will outperform ALL other powders without even seeing his-much less working up a load for it. I could say the same thing about jim shockey select but i wouldn't be qualified to do so.

I did some price checking today and found a descent deal on a Pro Hunter - $699 blued barrel/comp. stock or $750 SS barrel/comp. stock (both prices are before the $50 rebate). So I will probably go get one Wednesday if I get off work in time. I have read where a 25acp primer gives better performance than some 209 primers but there is no breech plug conversion for the Pro Hunter. Is there anyway around this for a Pro Hunter? If anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for everyones advise so far. The ML will be mainly for deer, is a 250gr. bullet enough or should I go to a 300 gr? What kind of primer if I cannot get the conversion to the 25acp? I know everyones gun will fire something a little bit different, but I'm spending enough on the gun, I don't want to have more money wrapped up in powders, primers, and bullets than I do the gun itself

That would be a $700 single shot riflei might add.

I think if you check around you can buy the Endeavor(newest version)for the same price as the pro hunter, ive seen the black and SS at the gun shows for 750.Get some BH209 powder, and you will not need theprimer conversion kit.Im shootingbh209, and groups like this are not uncommon out to 100yds..........in the endeavor

Does the Endeavor come with a Blued Barrel instead of the Stainless? All I see on the T/C site is Stainless w/ black stock and stainless w/ camo stock. As of right now I'm leaning toward the Pro Hunter. I am interested in the Endeavor but not in the heavy price tag. $650 is enough for a blued Pro Hunter,my local shop is carrying the Endeavor SS w/ black stock for$769 after rebate and thatis pushing it when it comes to my checkbook and the wife. I do like the speed breech XT, but I don't think it is worth the extra money. However, I'm interested in trying the .25acp primers but from what I've read the Pro Hunter does not take them well. Anyone else expand on this?

I think they only come in stainless. Did you try the gun shows around you. I see the black and stainless for 750, and then mail rebate of 50, so you pay 700. As far as i know there in only one place to get the 25acp breech plug for the pro hunter http://www.powderandbow.com/prohntr.htm. Then you have the cost of 25acp brass, and primers,and then pressing out the old primers, and repriming them,seems likea hassle to me, when you could shoot shotgun primers for half the cost.Then the cost of breech plug replacement down the road, at 60 a pop, compared to 30.just my thoughts

Thanks for the info rev. I was not aware you had to go through all that with the .25acp's. The last show I was at was Sunday, and a few dealers hadsome Pro Hunter Stainless for $770 but I didn't see any Endeavors. Thanks again for the help.

flybub, If you use the BH209 you don't want the conversion kit. I had one for my Wolf and don't use it anymore. Was a hassle. Go w/ the SS Pro Hunter if your going to get one, resale if ever will be better for you.Mention that to your wife, gives them hope you might not be as crazed later on in life about these gun obsessions (LOL). I will take stainless over blued any day as in mu opinion the upkeep is not as strict. (I do obsess on cleaning my guns). The BH209 is expensive but it sounds like you are not going to be spending a ton of time playing w/ the Inline. That is why that sub is preferable to me, again opinions are like _ _ _ _ - - _ everyoine has one. The clean up time savings and ease of use alone is worth the price to me. T7 was horrible for me and the crud rings and having to swab between shots etc. I can do 30 shots 110grains measured of BH 209 w/out swabbing, again fun on the range and time savings.
1/4 twist to get the plug out ain't no big deal.