I have a 50mm on my Omega and a 40mm on my Savage. I like the 40mm better,first it is lighter, 2nd it looks funny to see this big old scope on a MLer, 3nd you have to use the high rings with the 50mm and they are not as strong and solid shootingin my opinion. So I agree with oldwun, buty the 40mm. Chap Gleason

Thanks for all the help. Now just one more question. I have decided on the Nikon Omega scope for the Z5 T/C Omega thumbhole. I like the 3-9X40 and the short length of the scope. I can order it with the Nikoplexandwithout the BDC. For those of you shooting this scope is this a mistake? Is this something I will regret later on? Will I be the only one shooting an Omega scope without BDC? Sorry this was three questions instead of only one.

I would get the BDC.....the marks may not be the range advertised but with some testing you can figure out what range they are and then use them at that range. I know a couple guys that have done this

Last night I picked up one of those Z5 Thumbholes at Wal Martfor $189. We have a friend who's husband passed away and her 15 year old son really doesn't have a father figure to hang with. He fishes with us and last year started hunting with us. He has helped me on several projects over the last couple of years and refuses to take any money. We are taking them out for super tomorrow night at which time I am giving him this Z5 along with a bunch of goodies for it. Someday he will be in my shoes and I bet he will do the same thing for some young man. I did get his mom's blessing first!!

oldwun - I commend you for your thoughtfulness and consideration towards the young man. All to often young people find themselves in a situation where they have no adult figure that they can interact with, or talk to about just anything. Your gesture is very kind. I am sure many years from now this young man will look back on your kindness...

oldwun

Excellent.... and that is why we "pay it forward" - hopefully the world will be a better place if all would do that...

Oldwun, you are top notch! People like you are what make this country great!

I was in his shoes at one time and someone helped me. I still have the pre 64 Winchester Model 70 .308 Featherweight that someone gave me. It is priceless. It really isn't hard to do the right thing. I am around a lot of young men at church and I help the TWRA guy do gun safety courses. We take some handicap kids hunting and that will fill your soul. April 20 - 26 we are taking 8 young men to Gulfport MS to build a couple of houses. They are prefabing the walls as we speak. But you are right about needing a father figure. Two parents make a difference.We just do not hear much about the good kids and believe me there are more of them than there are thugs.

My hat's off to you oldwun, you are a class act.

Oldwun; Thank God there are guys like you around!!!! I was lucky, as I had my Dad and various uncles that taught me how to fish and hunt, and the ways of deer camp. That young man is a VERY LUCKY person. I guarantee he will never forget what you do for him!!!