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Old 11-27-2007 | 05:38 PM
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But I would not trade my Triumph for two Omegas. Lee
That says it all, you like the Triumph better. Chap Gleason
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Old 11-28-2007 | 05:16 AM
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The Triumph only comes with a synthetic stock. I wonder if the flex issue exist with this gun too? Its a two piece stock so maybe not.
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Old 11-28-2007 | 08:09 AM
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I personally believe that some of these issues have come from not getting the proper tension on the stock to mounting stud screws they should be torqued to 28 inch pounds to loose or to tight will create problems on most of the plastic stocks used to day; It really helps keep the same POI irregardless of what kind of stock you use, I do it on all my guns.Not holding it solid or to much stress can spoil the guns abailty to group I suspect these kind of problems when some one can not get groups under 2 inches. Lee
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Old 11-28-2007 | 09:23 AM
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If you get the Omega check the front mounting screw boss on the barrel. Mine is loose and the screw is bottomed out. I think it might be the reason my POI has been all over the place. If I had it to do over again I would buy the Knight KRB (come to think of it I just did). The whole rifle is a lot more solid but also heavier.
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Old 11-28-2007 | 09:07 PM
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Thanks. How dopowerbelts load in the omega and triumph?
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Old 11-28-2007 | 09:40 PM
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Its not how they load, Its if either one will shoot them good.
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Old 11-28-2007 | 10:03 PM
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Alot of people complain about the difficulty in loading a T/C especially for a quick second shot when hunting. Someone claimed that he was able to follow up a shockwave with a quick second shot using a powerbelt. I guess his gun shot SW's and PB's with similar grouping.
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Old 11-29-2007 | 05:56 AM
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Alot of people complain about the difficulty in loading a T/C especially for a quick second shot when hunting. Someone claimed that he was able to follow up a shockwave with a quick second shot using a powerbelt. I guess his gun shot SW's and PB's with similar grouping.

Forget the 2nd shot, you never need it. Your a one shot deer hunter and that is it. Like bow hunting only further and more accurate. As for loading get some Harvester Crushed Rib sabots here:

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=00072H15045BR

if you want to shoot and excellent bullet in the Omega try a 300g Nosler Partition HG bullet:

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0011545350

use those for hunting. For plinking use Hornady XTP 300g:

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0000345235

Another good hunting bullet that is inexpensive is the Speer Gold Dot:

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000213974

If you just gotta shoot PBs (your into loading easy), shoot them at 70 or 80g of 777 and use a 348g bullet, broadside rib shots only.


If your gonna take tough shot thru bone use either a Nosler Partitionor a Barnes MZ or TMZ or XPB or a Speer Gold Dot or a bonded TC Shockwave. You gotta experiment a bit to get the right bullet, load and sabot combination that works in your gun.The Crushed Rib with Nosler Partition HG works in the following guns:
Knight Disc Origonal (100g of 777 loose)
Knight Disc Extreme (100 of 777 loose)
TC Omega (100g 777)
TC Hawken FlintLock (80g of fff Goex)
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Old 11-29-2007 | 06:08 AM
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Gleason, thats great info. This hunting season I would like to keep it simple with triple-7 pellets andeventually experiment with loose. I heard about the crushed ribbed sabots and I will definitely try those. BTW, what kind of bullets come with shockwaves, Hornady XTP's?
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Old 11-29-2007 | 06:52 AM
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Gleason, thats great info. This hunting season I would like to keep it simple with triple-7 pellets andeventually experiment with loose. I heard about the crushed ribbed sabots and I will definitely try those. BTW, what kind of bullets come with shockwaves, Hornady XTP's?
Shockwave is the brand name of a TC bullet made by Hornady. Hornady calls it the SST. They are like an XTP, but have a more aerodynamic head so it shoot further, the ballistic coefficient of the 300g SW is like .25. They penetrate well and many folks use them cause they are accurate as heck, I shot this 5 shot group in my Savage 10ML, with the SW:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/TC_Shockwave_300g_2007_06_02_AA5744_44g_FederalPri mer_default%20sabot.jpg

I am not shooting SW, but I do consider it an excellent bullet. I like the bonded better than the unbonded, but for deer either will work. Chap Gleason
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