Thank you for that info... and you too nolehoe....
Glad to hear some fellow remington shooters let'n me know what works well for them!

The guy at my local gun shop steered me away from pyrodex... never got a good reason, but I hear you fellas saying you have better luck with it over 777.
Cool. I will go pick some up... and some shock waves and see how they do..... what grain do you recomend on the shockwaves?
I will also get some hornady's and do some group comparisons....

What are you guys doing for cleaning between shots? Remove breech, dry brush and dry patch? Or do you go to solution and dry patches between each shot? Thanks for tolerating all my questions fellas.
Mark

250gr and you might want to look at the bonded version, there is a thread on here about recovered bullets you might want to read if you haven't already; they also have alot of good things to say about the Speer Gold Dot. FYI I currently shoot Barnes Spitfires out of my Omega, but the last time I shot my Remington I shot some Barnes Expanders which seemed to shoot just (or close enough) as accurate as the SW. As far as terminal performance goes I've only shot one deer with a SW and it did the job-nothing special about wound channel but nothing wrong with it either.
Shot a deer one time with a Barnes Expander entrance was in front of the front shoulder and exit was at the last rib-the wound was unreal. No trying to sway you one way or the other, just telling what I know...which aint much

Check this out http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2469481
and this http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2385604&mpage=1

Thanks nolehoe, I really appreciate the info!

You can get what's called a nipple pick to ensure that your breech plug is clear after each shot.

Don't dispair on the Rem 700. They have their quirks just like every ML but they are deadly accurate. I have one of the early Rem 700's.

I have not shot the 209 conversion, so I cannot tell you how thatworks.

I shoot the #11 cap with RWS caps and .44 240gr Hornady XTP/Green sabot under 90 gr FFG 777. Several other folks with the R700ML shoot that same load with very accurate results.

I clean inbetween each and every shot in every ML I own.

Try swabbing the bore after each shot with a damp (not wet) patch of 50/50 Mix of 99% Alcohol & Windex. Short stroke the patch down and up, flip and do again followed by a dry patch. Then the bore will be clean and dry. The two most successful elements to happy sabot loading. If you are a clean bore POI type like me, then you are set. Otherwise then you will need to occassionally clean the bore when loading becomes miserable.

An interesting couple of threads regarding the Rem 700.You can find more if you do a search:

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1546849&mpage=1&key=cleaning&amp ;#1548426

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2373783&mpage=1&key=&#237663 4

Hang in there with the Rem700ML. It's a good ML. Be sure to detail clean and lube the ML (including the bolt and firing pin/spring assembly) immediately after each shooting session. Folks have forgotten about the firing pin assembly only to find it rusting up to the point of not functioning.
Granted it does have it's issues, but I don't own an ML that does not. Good Luck!

Tahquamenon