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Old 10-25-2007 | 05:28 AM
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letssee some pics of recovered bulletssome of you guys found over the years.
Anybody got any pictues of the Parker Ballistic Extreme? Here is one from a thread on modernmuzzleloading in PDF format:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/Parker%20BE%20TC%20SW%20shot%20into%20ballistic%20 gel.pdf

Here is a picture of the PBE and the 250g Bonded SW shot into the gel. What do ya think? Why?
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Old 10-25-2007 | 05:41 AM
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"Anybody got any recovered 250 or 300g SW or Hornady SSTs? Lets take a look at them? To start the discussion, please look at this thread in PDF format:"

Take a look at theSST i recovered from a deceased hog. It is posted on this threadalong with the photos of lots of bullets that were fired into lots of different kinds of non-living media.That bulletwas fired from a laser measured distance of 190 yards. Take a look at the 240 grain, .44 caliber XTP thati recovered from the body of the second deer that it killed. It was fired atabout 130 yards. A deer or hog is not gelatin. The tests of bullets fired into gelatin, sand, wet newspapers and wet clay arenot indicative of what a bullet does when it hits a pig or deer.

For some reason you have a big problem with SST bullets. How many head of game have you shot with SST bullets? SST and XTP bullets have worked well for me.So far thisyear i have killed 14 hogs with SST and XTP bullets. Not one of them went over 10 yards.

I will say it again, lots of folks have trouble with bullets because they do not put them in the right place.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 07:05 AM
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Chap, what powder and how much of it for the PBE and the bonded shockwave? Also, were they recovered from deer? I like the way they look. Not sure if they are considered overexpanded or not but they sure look good to me. Thanks again for all your input, Greg
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Old 10-25-2007 | 09:28 AM
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I agree that you can not tell much with out that info. If I was to guess I would say they were shot into gellatin with a smokeless powder gun [there are at least 3 now] and a max load of smokeless. I say this because of the way the unbonded 250 blew, I never had one do that but I know it only takes a little more velocity than the bullet can stand,a 150 gr load of 777 might do it. Lee
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Old 10-25-2007 | 04:23 PM
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Chap, what powder and how much of it for the PBE and the bonded shockwave? Also, were they recovered from deer? I like the way they look. Not sure if they are considered overexpanded or not but they sure look good to me. Thanks again for all your input, Greg
Those were NOT my bullet but a screen capture from the thread that I posted to get the discussion going. That was from balistic gel. I have shot the PBE 275g in my Savage 10ML with 44g of 5744, gives about 2000 fps. Here is one group of 5 that I shot of them:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/Parker_Ballistic_Extreme_275g_2007_09_03_AA5744_44 g_WinchesterKleenborePrimer_default%20sabot.jpg

I think they are a very good bullet.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 04:33 PM
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"Anybody got any recovered 250 or 300g SW or Hornady SSTs? Lets take a look at them? To start the discussion, please look at this thread in PDF format:"

Take a look at theSST i recovered from a deceased hog. It is posted on this threadalong with the photos of lots of bullets that were fired into lots of different kinds of non-living media.That bulletwas fired from a laser measured distance of 190 yards. Take a look at the 240 grain, .44 caliber XTP thati recovered from the body of the second deer that it killed. It was fired atabout 130 yards. A deer or hog is not gelatin. The tests of bullets fired into gelatin, sand, wet newspapers and wet clay arenot indicative of what a bullet does when it hits a pig or deer.

For some reason you have a big problem with SST bullets. How many head of game have you shot with SST bullets? SST and XTP bullets have worked well for me.So far thisyear i have killed 14 hogs with SST and XTP bullets. Not one of them went over 10 yards.

I will say it again, lots of folks have trouble with bullets because they do not put them in the right place.
Thanks for the push back Falcon, this is just what I wanted to see, someone whohad good experiencewith them. Now I went thru this entire thread and I didn't see any pictures from you, can you give either a URL link or post the picture in here. I have not killed any game with the SST but I have with the XTP, and I like them,as for the SST they are the most accurate bullet in my Savage.
However I chose the PBE since I felt it mushroomed better at closer ranges based on what I have seen andread.Thanks. Chap Gleason
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Old 10-25-2007 | 04:36 PM
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I agree that you can not tell much with out that info. If I was to guess I would say they were shot into gellatin with a smokeless powder gun [there are at least 3 now] and a max load of smokeless. I say this because of the way the unbonded 250 blew, I never had one do that but I know it only takes a little more velocity than the bullet can stand,a 150 gr load of 777 might do it. Lee
Click the link above that I postedand read the article, it is Smokeless NULA and I don't know the powder. Chap
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Old 10-25-2007 | 05:26 PM
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Falcon, Hook us up with the pics. Thanks, Greg
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Old 10-25-2007 | 06:37 PM
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gleason.chapman,Itried that Chap the pics came throughj fine but the print looked like computerees, my computer is kinda old I built it about 10 years a go. Lee
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Old 10-25-2007 | 06:43 PM
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gleason.chapman,Itried that Chap the pics came throughj fine but the print looked like computerees, my computer is kinda old I built it about 10 years a go. Lee
You need to download "Adobe Acrobat Reader", which is free SW to read "PDF file", go to

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

and download and install it. I think you have an old version of Adobe Viewer. Chap

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