if you can find it. Everybody carries 777 now even Wal-Mart, but Shocky Gold, hard to get in my area. I have about 1/10 lb left, did NOT dare to start hunting season with it. Just can't find it anywhere in my area, so will stay with 777 and the crud ring, but 777 is accurate and powerful in my guns and the crud ring is just anissue, not a big deal.
Chap Gleason

I like 777 as well. I have a CVA Optima. I use windex patch and a dry patch between shots and has worked well. I use 777 primers and haven't experienced too much crud.

Have fun with the rifle!

The new winchester 777 primers have made a big difference in my gun with the crud ring. If you can locate some, try them.

And I too, swab between each shot at the range. Why not? With any bullet/powder combo it gererally improves your accuracy. And that first shot at game is with a basically clean barrel. I do "foul" mine when I load it by popping a cap by itself, then popping a cap with 10-15 grains powder, then swabing then loading. Has worked for me

Ya, I foul the barrel. Load 50g pellet and a cleaning wad. Got that idea from a fellow board member. From the looks I got from the boys at the range, when that wad shot out of there, I definately can tell the guy that gave me the idea shoots at his own private range![X(]It does work.