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Doegirl75 05-29-2007 08:35 PM

RE: Savage 10 ML
 
Chap: In my gun, 5744 does better with the lighter bullets (250grains). That works wonderfully for me since I only hunt deer and recoil is very manageable. But your are after elk and want to shoot 300grain bullets. I concur with the Red Lion. Experiment with different powders, IMR 4759 and vihtavouri N 110. I wouldn't use a non Savage recommended powder myself. There are plenty who do, however.

gleason.chapman 05-30-2007 05:51 AM

RE: Savage 10 ML
 

ORIGINAL: Doegirl75

Chap: In my gun, 5744 does better with the lighter bullets (250grains). That works wonderfully for me since I only hunt deer and recoil is very manageable. But your are after elk and want to shoot 300grain bullets. I concur with the Red Lion. Experiment with different powders, IMR 4759 and vihtavouri N 110. I wouldn't use a non Savage recommended powder myself. There are plenty who do, however.
DG75,
Did not realize this about this powder. Why is that?Savage list the 300g XTP and this powder in the manual. Thanks for your comment. Is this what is meant by the term "safe" in a previous post? Slow burning and not heavy bullets?
Chap

Doegirl75 05-30-2007 07:14 AM

RE: Savage 10 ML
 

ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman


ORIGINAL: Doegirl75

Chap: In my gun, 5744 does better with the lighter bullets (250grains). That works wonderfully for me since I only hunt deer and recoil is very manageable. But your are after elk and want to shoot 300grain bullets. I concur with the Red Lion. Experiment with different powders, IMR 4759 and vihtavouri N 110. I wouldn't use a non Savage recommended powder myself. There are plenty who do, however.
DG75,
Did not realize this about this powder. Why is that?Savage list the 300g XTP and this powder in the manual. Thanks for your comment. Is this what is meant by the term "safe" in a previous post? Slow burning and not heavy bullets?
Chap
Chap: The XTP's should give you reasonable (<2") accuracy with 5744. My suggestion to experiment with different powders is assuming you're still having accuracy issues even after shooting the xtp's with MMP short black sabots. My gun will group them 1.5" with 44grains. 5744 is "safe" because it's a Savage recommended powder. Savage recommends also that the max weight for a saboted projectile is 300 grains.

Red Lion 05-30-2007 07:51 AM

RE: Savage 10 ML
 

ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman


ORIGINAL: Red Lion

5744 is a good and very safe powder, but more of a starter powder than anything. I am not saying that you could not use and be completely satisfied, but there are other powders that will give better performance. I have been using the IMR 4759, 44-45 grns with MMP sabots and 250 SST's and getting moa @ 100 yards. I had heard that this load will get you about 2300 fps. I have also used IMR 4198 in the 66-68 grn range with the same bullet, sabot and subbase, but it has a stout kick and I was having sabot shredding in warmer, over 50 degree weather. This load will get you in the neighborhood of 2550 fps.
I posted the best link regarding Savage ML specific issues, questions guidance in case you have not already been hitting it, as you will get any and all questions answered there.
Good luck and have fun.

http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage

Yes, I have been on the site and printed some info to PDF.Why do you call it a "safe powder", what do you mean by that? Thanks Chap

What I mean by safe, is that you can use a lee dipper to approximate a load to shoot on range, without having to weigh charges beforehand. I would not do the same for most other powders, such as 4198.

gleason.chapman 05-30-2007 09:12 AM

RE: Savage 10 ML
 

ORIGINAL: Doegirl75


Chap: The XTP's should give you reasonable (<2") accuracy with 5744. My suggestion to experiment with different powders is assuming you're still having accuracy issues even after shooting the xtp's with MMP short black sabots. My gun will group them 1.5" with 44grains. 5744 is "safe" because it's a Savage recommended powder. Savage recommends also that the max weight for a saboted projectile is 300 grains.
Oh, OK. Did not realize that 300g was maximul Sabot either. Read the manual, I don't recall seeing that. I like 300g since it tends to shoot thru deer. Don't know how it will do on Elk but hope to find out in 2008.
Thanks for your help. Chap


gleason.chapman 05-30-2007 09:16 AM

RE: Savage 10 ML
 

ORIGINAL: Red Lion

What I mean by safe, is that you can use a lee dipper to approximate a load to shoot on range, without having to weigh charges beforehand. I would not do the same for most other powders, such as 4198.
Oh, OK. Yes, I found some Lee Dippers at Clark Brothers in Warrenton Va. They work great. It has a little chart with all kinds of powders, I was planning on using it to dip charge and weigh them after I got "dialed in" with XTP and MMP Short sabots. Anyway, I am learning a lot via this thread, so thanks for the help.
Chap

Red Lion 05-30-2007 09:22 AM

RE: Savage 10 ML
 
I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well.

gleason.chapman 05-30-2007 09:27 AM

RE: Savage 10 ML
 

ORIGINAL: Red Lion

I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well.
What will they do on Elk? Chap


Red Lion 05-30-2007 11:15 AM

RE: Savage 10 ML
 
They, the 250 SST's would likely work, but I think using the 300 SST's as you are thinking would be better.

gleason.chapman 05-30-2007 01:40 PM

RE: Savage 10 ML
 

ORIGINAL: Red Lion

They, the 250 SST's would likely work, but I think using the 300 SST's as you are thinking would be better.
Agreed. Thanks for your wisdom. Chap


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