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Savage 10 ML
Well I finally got my Savage 10 ML II last week, so I bought the rings and I am putting it together tonight and shooting it tomorrow. Attached is a picture, here is what is in the picture:
Savage 10 ML II Stainless Steel, black stock Bushnell 3-9x40 Firefly Scope Warne Rings Weaver Grand Slam mounts LockTite 222 MS Thread locker I intend on shooting the factory load of 40g of Accurate Arms 5744 with a 300g Hornady XTP just to sight in. then start testing and shooting some other bullets for accuracy and penetration, Barnes TMZ 300g and Knight Ultimte Slam 300g. I will keep the forum informed as I get this together and start shooting it. Oh I cleaned the bore and the bolt with Hoope #9. I am shooting Federal Primers. Chap Gleason  |
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Chap - I use the same mounts and rings on my White, Knight Disc, and Black Diamond XR. You are really going to like that set up. I will be interested to see the kind of shooting results you get. I have read a lot of posts about the accuracy of the Savage muzzleloaders and it will be interesting to see what happens to you.
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ORIGINAL: cayugad Chap - I use the same mounts and rings on my White, Knight Disc, and Black Diamond XR. You are really going to like that set up. I will be interested to see the kind of shooting results you get. I have read a lot of posts about the accuracy of the Savage muzzleloaders and it will be interesting to see what happens to you. Good luck with your rifle. Chap Gleason  |
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That is a really sharp looking rifle and set up. I will be interested to see how well it shoots for you.
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This is my initial sight in at 25 yard, with 300g Hornady XTP, Federal Primer, 3.1cc (Lee Dipper) 41.3g of Accurate Arms 5744 and Crushed rib sabot, which was Very very loose. I forgot my MMP short Black sabots, which is what the gun was designed around. 1st 3 shot were about 4" high at 25 yards so I dropped it 12 clicks, next set of 3 were about1.75 to 2 inches high, so I left it there to try at 100. About 80 degrees and some crosswind.
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RE: Savage 10 ML
It looks very good to me. I bet that will be a real good rifle for you. How is the recoil with that load?
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ORIGINAL: cayugad It looks very good to me. I bet that will be a real good rifle for you. How is the recoil with that load? shot 2 to 3 left clicked 12. Then shot the next 6. Here is that shooting. Oh the sabot is real loose in this gun with the crush rib, I forgot my MMP Short Black sabots which is the recommended load from savage. I also was shooting about 41.3g of powder (3.1cc) according to Lee Dipper caliper. Chap Gleason  |
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I then put a clean target on and shot 3 more shots. Here it that. Shot 1 was right where I wanted it, 3" high and dead on windage wise. Shot 2 and 3 were way left, about a 4" horizontal group, I don't think that is good, but it is OK for first time out with the rifle. My sabots were loose and I had a poor shooting rest/position. I will try it again a couple of days. I felt the gun was pretty dirty after shooting it, not as bad as black powder, but pretty dirty. I ran about 12 patches thru it before I felt it was clean. I used Hoppe and Rem Oil on the last couple. All in all I am satisfied, but I know I will get this thing dialed in with the XTPs and then switch over to testing bullets I want to hunt elk with in 2008. I plan on hunting deer this year with the rifle in both ML and rifle season. the big bullets do a big number on deer, with the recoil a lot less than my 30-o6 that is a good thing. Chap Gleason
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Loose fitting sabots just won't shoot a darn in my savage. The short black sabots are really tight in my gun, but the accuracy is there. I hope you'll test some 300grain Barnes MZ expanders. They seem to do really well with 5744.
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ORIGINAL: Doegirl75 Loose fitting sabots just won't shoot a darn in my savage. The short black sabots are really tight in my gun, but the accuracy is there. I hope you'll test some 300grain Barnes MZ expanders. They seem to do really well with 5744. Here is the patch sequence Top of paper 11 10 9 8 76 5 1 2 3 4 Bottom of paper Between 6 and 7 I bronze brushed out the barrell  |
RE: Savage 10 ML
You know, I never really thought about the "dirtyness" of my rifle. I guess I expected it to be dirty, since I clean about every 40 shots and I don't swab in between.:D My cleaning routine is a little different: 1. remove the bolt and breechplug. 2. put a hoppes soaked patch on a long handled breech plug breech and clean out the breech with as many wet patches as necessary (2-3 usually). 2. Run 2-3 soaked hoppes patches from the breech out the muzzle. Let the gun sit for 15 minutes while I tend to the breech plug. 3. use dry patches wrapped around the breechplug brush and clean out breech. 4. wrap dry patches around a bore brush and run through the bore until clean. 5. A patch of Breakfree CLP and I'm done.
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RE: Savage 10 ML
ORIGINAL: Doegirl75 You know, I never really thought about the "dirtyness" of my rifle. I guess I expected it to be dirty, since I clean about every 40 shots and I don't swab in between.:D My cleaning routine is a little different: 1. remove the bolt and breechplug. 2. put a hoppes soaked patch on a long handled breech plug breech and clean out the breech with as many wet patches as necessary (2-3 usually). 2. Run 2-3 soaked hoppes patches from the breech out the muzzle. Let the gun sit for 15 minutes while I tend to the breech plug. 3. use dry patches wrapped around the breechplug brush and clean out breech. 4. wrap dry patches around a bore brush and run through the bore until clean. 5. A patch of Breakfree CLP and I'm done. |
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Chap,Those patches are quite a bit dirtier than I get, however I am not shooting 5744,rumor has it that 5744 is dirtier but very ignitable and the only powder that can be measured. My Savage loads very hard with a 458
Barnes original with a orange sabot over 60 grains of VV120, kicks is substantial but accuracy is great. Redclub |
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don't give up on those crushed rib sabots quite yet. Get some .458 bullets and give them ago, either remington or hornady, they both shoot about the same out of mine.
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RE: Savage 10 ML
ORIGINAL: rhans53 don't give up on those crushed rib sabots quite yet. Get some .458 bullets and give them ago, either remington or hornady, they both shoot about the same out of mine. |
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ORIGINAL: Redclub Chap,Those patches are quite a bit dirtier than I get, however I am not shooting 5744,rumor has it that 5744 is dirtier but very ignitable and the only powder that can be measured. My Savage loads very hard with a 458 Barnes original with a orange sabot over 60 grains of VV120, kicks is substantial but accuracy is great. Redclub I thought the same thing that this seemed "pretty dirty" for a smokeless powder, but never having shot the 5744 I had no idea how dirty it really was. I also thought it was still pretty dirty after 12 patches, but again I have no reference to what is good or acceptable with this powder. I am using the Lee Dipper that have a little slide rule that tell you what dip give you what grains. I bought a Lee scale, but I have not tried to use it yet, because I need something to calibrate the thing with. What do you use to make sure the scale is accurate? Thank you for your feedback. Chap |
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Hi,
I also clean the breechplug with a 5 / 32 drill ( with hands, not the electric drill ). Here is what I got WITH IMR-SR-4759, 46.5 grains with Hornady 250SST bullet,MMP black sabot, win 209 primer. At 100 meters, scope not centered (done for checking the grouping): [img]http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/  ">I got 2200 fps with that recipe. Etienne Brule |
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ORIGINAL: Etienne Brule Hi, I also clean the breechplug with a 5 / 32 drill ( with hands, not the electric drill ). Here is what I got WITH IMR-SR-4759, 46.5 grains with Hornady 250SST bullet,MMP black sabot, win 209 primer. At 100 meters, scope not centered (done for checking the grouping): I got 2200 fps with that recipe. Etienne Brule |
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ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman ORIGINAL: Etienne Brule Hi, I also clean the breechplug with a 5 / 32 drill ( with hands, not the electric drill ). Here is what I got WITH IMR-SR-4759, 46.5 grains with Hornady 250SST bullet,MMP black sabot, win 209 primer. At 100 meters, scope not centered (done for checking the grouping): I got 2200 fps with that recipe. Etienne Brule I posted the best link regarding Savage ML specific issues, questions guidance in case you have not already been hitting it, as you will get any and all questions answered there. Good luck and have fun. http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage |
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ORIGINAL: Red Lion 5744 is a good and very safe powder, but more of a starter powder than anything. I am not saying that you could not use and be completely satisfied, but there are other powders that will give better performance. I have been using the IMR 4759, 44-45 grns with MMP sabots and 250 SST's and getting moa @ 100 yards. I had heard that this load will get you about 2300 fps. I have also used IMR 4198 in the 66-68 grn range with the same bullet, sabot and subbase, but it has a stout kick and I was having sabot shredding in warmer, over 50 degree weather. This load will get you in the neighborhood of 2550 fps. I posted the best link regarding Savage ML specific issues, questions guidance in case you have not already been hitting it, as you will get any and all questions answered there. Good luck and have fun. http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage |
RE: Savage 10 ML
Chap: In my gun, 5744 does better with the lighter bullets (250grains). That works wonderfully for me since I only hunt deer and recoil is very manageable. But your are after elk and want to shoot 300grain bullets. I concur with the Red Lion. Experiment with different powders, IMR 4759 and vihtavouri N 110. I wouldn't use a non Savage recommended powder myself. There are plenty who do, however.
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ORIGINAL: Doegirl75 Chap: In my gun, 5744 does better with the lighter bullets (250grains). That works wonderfully for me since I only hunt deer and recoil is very manageable. But your are after elk and want to shoot 300grain bullets. I concur with the Red Lion. Experiment with different powders, IMR 4759 and vihtavouri N 110. I wouldn't use a non Savage recommended powder myself. There are plenty who do, however. Did not realize this about this powder. Why is that?Savage list the 300g XTP and this powder in the manual. Thanks for your comment. Is this what is meant by the term "safe" in a previous post? Slow burning and not heavy bullets? Chap |
RE: Savage 10 ML
ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman ORIGINAL: Doegirl75 Chap: In my gun, 5744 does better with the lighter bullets (250grains). That works wonderfully for me since I only hunt deer and recoil is very manageable. But your are after elk and want to shoot 300grain bullets. I concur with the Red Lion. Experiment with different powders, IMR 4759 and vihtavouri N 110. I wouldn't use a non Savage recommended powder myself. There are plenty who do, however. Did not realize this about this powder. Why is that?Savage list the 300g XTP and this powder in the manual. Thanks for your comment. Is this what is meant by the term "safe" in a previous post? Slow burning and not heavy bullets? Chap |
RE: Savage 10 ML
ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman ORIGINAL: Red Lion 5744 is a good and very safe powder, but more of a starter powder than anything. I am not saying that you could not use and be completely satisfied, but there are other powders that will give better performance. I have been using the IMR 4759, 44-45 grns with MMP sabots and 250 SST's and getting moa @ 100 yards. I had heard that this load will get you about 2300 fps. I have also used IMR 4198 in the 66-68 grn range with the same bullet, sabot and subbase, but it has a stout kick and I was having sabot shredding in warmer, over 50 degree weather. This load will get you in the neighborhood of 2550 fps. I posted the best link regarding Savage ML specific issues, questions guidance in case you have not already been hitting it, as you will get any and all questions answered there. Good luck and have fun. http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage |
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ORIGINAL: Doegirl75 Chap: The XTP's should give you reasonable (<2") accuracy with 5744. My suggestion to experiment with different powders is assuming you're still having accuracy issues even after shooting the xtp's with MMP short black sabots. My gun will group them 1.5" with 44grains. 5744 is "safe" because it's a Savage recommended powder. Savage recommends also that the max weight for a saboted projectile is 300 grains. Thanks for your help. Chap |
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ORIGINAL: Red Lion What I mean by safe, is that you can use a lee dipper to approximate a load to shoot on range, without having to weigh charges beforehand. I would not do the same for most other powders, such as 4198. Chap |
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I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well.
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RE: Savage 10 ML
ORIGINAL: Red Lion I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well. |
RE: Savage 10 ML
They, the 250 SST's would likely work, but I think using the 300 SST's as you are thinking would be better.
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RE: Savage 10 ML
ORIGINAL: Red Lion They, the 250 SST's would likely work, but I think using the 300 SST's as you are thinking would be better. |
RE: Savage 10 ML
ORIGINAL: Red Lion I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well. Hereis my own experience and I do not know if that can be applied to others... I made some tests to weigh charges and compare with the Lee dipers: I was NEVER able to get the same loads! There was always some differences ( = or > 0.5 grains ); those differences opened my grouping up to 12 inches at 100 meters.... grr... Since then, I take the time to weigh every load and put them in some plastic bottles for the day after. This is my experience. Etienne Brule. |
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Chap,fine looking outfit you have there.The savage if you shoot it enough you will find that there are many powders and bullets that shoot really well in it. My best load is the IMR4759 (47.5 grs) 250 sst or sw.and win primers.This is a stout load and gives 2440 fps.I think a lot of fellows use this powder and 42 0r 43 grs and the 250 and 300.
I have taken several deer with this load and the sst 250 from 50yds to 234yds,all complete pass throughs.All dropped on the spot except one that was running when I shot it behind the shoulder and it went about 75 yds.I have shot this load with the 300 sst and it shot great but think it was a little to hot.Watched a buddie put 7 in one hole at 100 yds with this load,but he has since went to the 250 gr sst.If you try the 4759 I would start out with 42 grs and work up you may find a load you like in a lower dose. I think my best load with the 5744 was 45 grs,its been awhile since I shot it. I have only shot my savage 3 times this year and that was to unload it after the season,and then shot around an inch group at 200 yds.Took 3 deer during the muzzleloader season,one at 170 yds,200 yds and 230 yds. I picked up a box of the 250 xtps to play with but just haven't gotten around to doing it I am at the range at least one day a week but just keep putting off the savage.I do want to try some different powders with them and will get to them shortly. Good luck on finding the load and bullet you like I am sure you will with the savage.ImR 4759,N110,N120,10x,IMR 4198 are some of the powders that have worked great in my savage.  Zeroing a scope in at 300 yds just before hunting season last year.  4-shot group I had shot back in april of 06 at 300 yds.  |
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ORIGINAL: Etienne Brule ORIGINAL: Red Lion I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well. Hereis my own experience and I do not know if that can be applied to others... I made some tests to weigh charges and compare with the Lee dipers: I was NEVER able to get the same loads! There was always some differences ( = or > 0.5 grains ); those differences opened my grouping up to 12 inches at 100 meters.... grr... Since then, I take the time to weigh every load and put them in some plastic bottles for the day after. This is my experience. Etienne Brule. |
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ORIGINAL: herman Chap,fine looking outfit you have there.The savage if you shoot it enough you will find that there are many powders and bullets that shoot really well in it. My best load is the IMR4759 (47.5 grs) 250 sst or sw.and win primers.This is a stout load and gives 2440 fps.I think a lot of fellows use this powder and 42 0r 43 grs and the 250 and 300. I have taken several deer with this load and the sst 250 from 50yds to 234yds,all complete pass throughs.All dropped on the spot except one that was running when I shot it behind the shoulder and it went about 75 yds.I have shot this load with the 300 sst and it shot great but think it was a little to hot.Watched a buddie put 7 in one hole at 100 yds with this load,but he has since went to the 250 gr sst.If you try the 4759 I would start out with 42 grs and work up you may find a load you like in a lower dose. I think my best load with the 5744 was 45 grs,its been awhile since I shot it. I have only shot my savage 3 times this year and that was to unload it after the season,and then shot around an inch group at 200 yds.Took 3 deer during the muzzleloader season,one at 170 yds,200 yds and 230 yds. I picked up a box of the 250 xtps to play with but just haven't gotten around to doing it I am at the range at least one day a week but just keep putting off the savage.I do want to try some different powders with them and will get to them shortly. Good luck on finding the load and bullet you like I am sure you will with the savage.ImR 4759,N110,N120,10x,IMR 4198 are some of the powders that have worked great in my savage. Zeroing a scope in at 300 yds just before hunting season last year. 4-shot group I had shot back in april of 06 at 300 yds. I have some SSTs both TC Shockwave and Hornady, maybe about 10 or 12 of them of each kind. I intend on shooting them after I get the XTPs to consistently hit, they are cheaper and what the rifle was designed to shoot, so I figure that that is the right thing. Can you tell me why you like the 4759 over the AA 5744? I can tell a difference between APP and 777, the 777 has more power therefore more recoil. What is the difference between the 4759 and the 5744? I understand that the 5744 is more "forgiving". I am not sure what that means. I did have two shots out of the 30 I shot that didn't go off, I cocked the rifle again and it went off the send time. Has that ever happened to you? Again great shooting and thanks for the "hope" of getting dialed in like your shooting---truly awsome accuracy. Chap Gleason |
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ORIGINAL: Red Lion I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well. RL, Do they expand any? Thanks for the tip on weighing my charges. Chap |
RE: Savage 10 ML
ORIGINAL: Etienne Brule ORIGINAL: Red Lion I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well. Hereis my own experience and I do not know if that can be applied to others... I made some tests to weigh charges and compare with the Lee dipers: I was NEVER able to get the same loads! There was always some differences ( = or > 0.5 grains ); those differences opened my grouping up to 12 inches at 100 meters.... grr... Since then, I take the time to weigh every load and put them in some plastic bottles for the day after. This is my experience. Etienne Brule. |
RE: Savage 10 ML
ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman ORIGINAL: Red Lion I used a lee diper the first time out shooting my savage, but have weighed my charges prior to the range since then. I like knowing my exact loads when shooting. By the way a 250 SST will go right on through a deer as well. RL, Do they expand any? Thanks for the tip on weighing my charges. Chap |
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Chap,the reason is why I use 4759 is speed.I get more out of it with the 4759,I am wanting to reach out also.I hunt on a power line and the deer cross at 150 to 250 yds.Most of the fellows say that they find the sst 250 inside the deer but I have been trying for 4 years now and at different ranges all mine have been pass throughs.And they leave a big hole as they come out.
A couple years ago myself and a buddy got drawed for a special muzzleloader hunt on a refuge.2 does and a buck came by him and he shot one with a knight,the buck and doe ran past me at 65 yds and I threw up and shot got lucky and hitthe buckin the center of the onside shoulder,the sst passed through that shoulder and the other shoulder,the hole looked just a little bigger than a 50 cent piece. The scope I have on mine now is a lepould 4x12 blistic plex.I have it set to hit dead on at 100,first dot at 200 and the second dot at 300.Shooting the heavy loads are hard on scopes I have busted 2 and stripped the screw on 2 lepould rings.One was a burris singnature shatered the lense in it,one was a nikon broke the cross hairs in it. The 250 xtp's shoot good out to 200 yds but at 300 I just cannot get them to group like the sst's,I tried some of the barnes spitfire 245 gr last year and they would shoot one hole at 100 yds but couldn't get them to group worth a hoot at 200.Thats the reason I want to try some different powder with the xtp's when I get around to it. The reason the 2 did'nt go off was the sabot wasn't sealed enough in the barrel,the best thing it to try different sabots because all the barrels are not the same size,You want the sabot tight but you don't want to have to drive it down the barrel with a hammer.My barrel on my ss is a little big I can take the ribbed sabot and push it down the barrel with my finger so it don't shoot so good.the sabots that comes with the sst's works great in mine so I don't have to get a thinner sabot. Helped a fellow set up2 new ss savages last year one the sabots that came with the sst's worked fine the other they were too hard to go down the barrel,he ended up useing the harvester high pressure sabots in the other one.The bolts were different one the win primers would go in and out good but the other one the win you had to knock them in,the federal worked good,so he ended up useing the federal primers in both. One other thing is try swabbing between shots and not swabbing some like to be swabbed and some don't. Be sure the barrel is cooled between shots.When I shoot in the hot months I take a wet towel and keep it in the ice chest after I shoot I drape it over the barrel so don't have to wait so long for it to cool. There's a fellow on here that posts called 1-shot from NC I think I remember him saying that he used 5744 and the dipper and even the xtp'sbut not sure,anyway he is the one that can tell you anythng you want to know about the savage.Years ago when I got my first one he sure helped me out. |
RE: Savage 10 ML
ORIGINAL: herman Chap,the reason is why I use 4759 is speed.I get more out of it with the 4759,I am wanting to reach out also.I hunt on a power line and the deer cross at 150 to 250 yds.Most of the fellows say that they find the sst 250 inside the deer but I have been trying for 4 years now and at different ranges all mine have been pass throughs.And they leave a big hole as they come out. A couple years ago myself and a buddy got drawed for a special muzzleloader hunt on a refuge.2 does and a buck came by him and he shot one with a knight,the buck and doe ran past me at 65 yds and I threw up and shot got lucky and hitthe buckin the center of the onside shoulder,the sst passed through that shoulder and the other shoulder,the hole looked just a little bigger than a 50 cent piece. The scope I have on mine now is a lepould 4x12 blistic plex.I have it set to hit dead on at 100,first dot at 200 and the second dot at 300.Shooting the heavy loads are hard on scopes I have busted 2 and stripped the screw on 2 lepould rings.One was a burris singnature shatered the lense in it,one was a nikon broke the cross hairs in it. The 250 xtp's shoot good out to 200 yds but at 300 I just cannot get them to group like the sst's,I tried some of the barnes spitfire 245 gr last year and they would shoot one hole at 100 yds but couldn't get them to group worth a hoot at 200.Thats the reason I want to try some different powder with the xtp's when I get around to it. The reason the 2 did'nt go off was the sabot wasn't sealed enough in the barrel,the best thing it to try different sabots because all the barrels are not the same size,You want the sabot tight but you don't want to have to drive it down the barrel with a hammer.My barrel on my ss is a little big I can take the ribbed sabot and push it down the barrel with my finger so it don't shoot so good.the sabots that comes with the sst's works great in mine so I don't have to get a thinner sabot. Helped a fellow set up2 new ss savages last year one the sabots that came with the sst's worked fine the other they were too hard to go down the barrel,he ended up useing the harvester high pressure sabots in the other one.The bolts were different one the win primers would go in and out good but the other one the win you had to knock them in,the federal worked good,so he ended up useing the federal primers in both. One other thing is try swabbing between shots and not swabbing some like to be swabbed and some don't. Be sure the barrel is cooled between shots.When I shoot in the hot months I take a wet towel and keep it in the ice chest after I shoot I drape it over the barrel so don't have to wait so long for it to cool. There's a fellow on here that posts called 1-shot from NC I think I remember him saying that he used 5744 and the dipper and even the xtp'sbut not sure,anyway he is the one that can tell you anythng you want to know about the savage.Years ago when I got my first one he sure helped me out. Chap |
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Chap,of all the savages that I have set up or helped set up he last 3 0r 4 years only a few of them shot better by swabbing between shots,wanted to mention it because the savage is like any other type of muzzleloader useing little tricks to get better accuracy.Most are useing the IMR4759 in different grains,one fellow is useing IMR4227 and won't change,he says he has killed deer out to 280yds with it and going to keep useing it.A couple are useing the 5744 and like it.One fellow was very hard headed and used the dippers to measure his 4759,and couldn't get it to shoot too good at 100 yds,he had a friend with him and he wasn't hard headed and listened,by the time we had his rifle set up he shot a 3shot one hole group,a week later the other fellow called me and said he that he had finally shot a one holer,I said you weighed your load didn't you and he addmitted that he did.
Another thing that has helped my savage to shoot more constant is that I had my buddie to bed the recoil lug,I tightened the front screw and never touch it,unless I am going to strip it all the way down to do a good cleaning,to clean after range trip I just turn the back screw enough to get the bolt out. The only requirement if I am going to help anyone set up a savage is that they clean the barrel with JB bore cleaner with at least 200 strokes.This gives them a very clean barrel to start with and saves time in working up loads.. The mmp short sabot is a good choice with the xtp,below is a pic compareing a knight sabot to the mmp useing the xtp's.  |
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