Well this is what came out of the final commissioners meeting inBoise, still have not seen any mapping a printed hunts yet. But, what it did was change the some ML hunts into Short Range hunts. I am not sure if you can claim a clear winner here or not, but I believe the Inline ml shooters came out ahead. Remember Idaho had healthy restrictions on inline ML's, well in a SR season those restrictions are gone.

It was in a lot of ways a move forward as the"Short Range" season offers no restrictions on the type of ML or the equipment on the ML...

Looking back at the whole thing I am not sure if anything changed other than now you can use modern ML's - scopes -209's - closed ignitions...

The key statement in the whole thing is Mr. McDermott's sentence...

I hope we, those that use inlines, will take an active part in helping form these new regualtions in the months to come.

This web address will take you to another summary of the meeting...

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/releases/view.cfm?NewsID=3743

This sentence in the above article - explains a lot

It sounds like that's a start but you still have some work to do to safe guard your past privileges.

are they allowing use of sabots again or still sticking with full bore conicals?

FG

During short range they would be legal...

Through this whole thing northern Idaho probably came out very good, I do not know the seasons well enough in southern Idaho to know how they faired, but the southern commissioners were somewhat hesitant towmard this new move so they may have lost ground there.

Sabotloader,

I must disagree that the inline folks came out ahead in this issue. The SR changes were implemented in the North only to please a very vocal croud (for whom I am happy for by the way), but the seasons in the south were not changed and in the end, we lost our rights to hunt with in-lines. We do need to take an active role in making sure that the issue does come back up for discussion.

Now, does anybody have any suggestions on the best way to turn a Knight Bighorn into something that resembles a "pivoting hammer"??

Maybe that is a good question to address to the people responsible for taking away your right to use it. I would ask them how you can use it in a muzzleloading season in your area under their restrictions. Of course they will respond you can use it in modern season, and then you can point out, that's the same arguement used by the traditional muzzleloader shooters.Thepoint being that you are now not able to muzzleloader hunt unless you re-outfit.Then offer to sell it to them as a first class boat anchor.

Well, at least we will have a chance to dispell some of the propaganda that has been dished out.

I wouldn't mind having short range seasons with possable exception to repeating and semi auto shotguns, but they will have to distribute them out so as to provide an equal share of opportunity to the different groups. They could have done the same thing by having traditional and modern muzzleloader descriptions and hunting units, just like they did in 06, 05, 04, but with a more equatable allocation between the two types.

Yoter

It was the three southern commissioners that somewhat balked at the new setup when McDermott and Irby proposed it. The point is some how as they work to redefine muzzleloading hunts in the state that we someway get our feelings into the new definitions.

I really believe the commissioners are going to work on this problem with some diligence. There are two commssioneers that are willing to listen, we need to get them as much information as possible. It would really be nice if we could form some sort state inline association and get our views heard as a block of people.

I, personally, do not have a problem with both types of ML's having some sort of season. The points that we need to dispel are that modern ML's are equal to high powered centerfires and that what was an Idaho legal inline ML is hige advantage over a traditional ML. If we can get those two points across then things should change.

I, and personally again, think there is a decided advantage of a modern closed breeched, 209 shooting, scoped, ML to a Idaho legal or a traditional ML, and again the modern ML doesnot offer theadvantageous of acenterfire. I believe there is room for 2 hunts - an Idaho legal inline, including pluger type, and traditional ML'sand a modern ML during the SR season.

Now how do we get it done....