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Old 02-26-2007 | 04:45 PM
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Not that it applies here, but I was taught by my father that trust can only be destroyed, not earned. I was also taught that I could not trust one who could not extend trust.My father's wisdom in this matter, as all all matters to my recollection, has been dead on.
I guess my dad was all wrong.


Now to your question. Even if they don't share my belief that hunting is a traditionwhich must be preserved and maintained through the maintenance and expansion of access, I do know that their funding largely comes from maximizing this philosophy. Money talks. Increased participation means more money at lower perunit cost which is what large markets are all about.
I don't really see this logic as a reason why I should trust them. Of course, I am a non-trusting person by nature.
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Old 02-26-2007 | 04:54 PM
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If they were really trying to control how many are taken they could ban cartridge guns that wold make a differance. Lee
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Old 02-26-2007 | 05:03 PM
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ORIGINAL: Pglasgow

Not that it applies here, but I was taught by my father that trust can only be destroyed, not earned. I was also taught that I could not trust one who could not extend trust.My father's wisdom in this matter, as all all matters to my recollection, has been dead on.
I guess my dad was all wrong.
Its quite simple really. If I don't trust you cascadedad, how can you earn my trust? I will watch your every move. You will not ever be given a chance to violate the trust which was never given. Odd thing about trust, it truly can not be earned.

.. . I am a non-trusting person by nature.
Don't take this personal or anything, but for this very reason I couldn't trust you.
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Old 02-26-2007 | 05:04 PM
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When I called my the Commissionaer for my Region, he basically played dumb and said that he couldn't remember what exactly they decided upon. Now we see one that is willing to at least bring it back up for discussion, and one that appears to be pretty well set in his mind. I'm wondering how many of the rest of you from other parts of the state have called? It might be nice to know who really needs to be convinced prior to the meeting, and then know a little bit of their background. I am from the Southwest Region, so now you know what he is thinking, although don't hesitate to call anyway. Let's do some groundwork and find out about the other comissioners that might be worth keying in on.

BTW, I like the way that pglascoe would like to approach the commission, but I don't neccessarily agree with the concept of trusting them without that trust being earned. Or, at a minimum I'd say that the recen decisions and the way they've gone about them on this topic has "destroyed" any trust I may have afforded them previously.
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Old 02-26-2007 | 05:16 PM
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A pitbull has to EARN my trust. I am not going to trust them up to the point where they bite me, at which time I will not trust them any more. Sorry, the damage has been done.

People can be just as damaging as a pitbull and I don't trust them either until I get to know them.
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Old 02-26-2007 | 05:37 PM
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A pitbull has to EARN my trust. I am not going to trust them up to the point where they bite me, at which time I will not trust them any more. Sorry, the damage has been done.

People can be just as damaging as a pitbull and I don't trust them either until I get to know them.
Right, but getting to know someone is notletting some one earn your trust really. It's you feeling comfortable enough to extend trust or at least feeling like you know them well enough to trust them. My father never taught me to trust blindly. He taught me many could be trusted and thatmany could not.He also taught me that one who violated trust once could never be trusted again. He further taught me that the only way to know if someone can be trusted is to extend trust to them. He taught me never to extend trust to a person who showed signs of distrust. He taught me that this is a sign of a person who isn't trustworthy.

Even though I don't extend trust to everyone, anytime, anyplace, I don't inherently distrust anyone either. I realize that when trust is extended, it can be violated. But a relationship which depends on trust can never be attained without stepping on this ledge.
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Old 02-26-2007 | 06:54 PM
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OK, you win, but I still don't trust the IFGC.
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Old 02-26-2007 | 07:16 PM
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nor do I... money talks way to often even in spite of good sense...
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Old 02-26-2007 | 07:26 PM
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If they were really trying to control how many are taken they could ban cartridge guns that wold make a differance. Lee

My thought exactly. I herd quality was an issue, at least move centerfires out of primary rut and increase antlerless tags. As far as I know, that techniques has ever been mentioned.I personally don't think its a herd issue.
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Old 02-26-2007 | 07:32 PM
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OK, you win, but I still don't trust the IFGC.
Fair enough. I'll agree that it is fine for you be agnosticabout trustingor distrust (whichever it is) IFGC. I trust them for now because I hope they can be trusted. I figure their goodintentions, and the good intentions ofIdaho inliners, are the onlyhope there is of a solution which will please everyone.
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