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Ever look at a rifle and wonder.

Old 02-18-2007 | 10:35 PM
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We used to be able to shoot in the desert just a short distance away but according to some legislation from Bill Clinton we cannot use Federal Land for shooting anymore.
Boy that is new one on me - I work for the US Forest Service and we shoot on National Forest and Potlatch lands all the time. There are shooting regulations around developed campgrounds, monuments, specialized recreation areas, and etc. Gosh you would have a hard time hunting on National forest if you could not shoot on it.

If they have posted that they are supposeto post the number of the regulation that goes along with the closure. Call the local land manager BLM - Forest Service or what ever and get the ruling...
i've noticed that there is a big difference between BLM and NF where I live. All the BLM is fenced and gated and generally locked in wet weather. Most every entrance has a sign which prohibits target shooting (though hunting is allowed). BLM has provided a decent range just for the purpose of target shooting. There are no benches nor are there any bags.

My sense is that the BLM workers don't appreciate the messestarget shooters tend to leave. So they just give us one location to trash up. Even with signs requesting clean up and declaring the penalties which can result from failure to do so, it never ceases to amaze me the messes people leave at the BLM range. I spend time cleaning up after other folkseverytime I go. A few months ago I assisted a worker replace the maps and instruction behind a shot up plexiglass display. Really sad we have folks out there who are so disrepectful of our public services and institutions. If this kind of activity continues, I wonder how long I can depend on the range to be open.
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Old 02-19-2007 | 01:44 AM
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I too wonder about a guns history, more of late I am in wondrement as to just how some one could have inflickted such odd wounds to them.


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Old 02-19-2007 | 06:45 AM
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Just wondering here but isn't BLM land range land? I would think if that were the case then the officals in charge are trying to head off trouble with some JERK shooting a cow or some thing by closeing BLM land to shooting except at range sites. Hey if a JERK will shoot up signs and leave a mess then they would shoot a cow or sheep.
Any way that could be the difference between BLM land and a FF.
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Old 02-19-2007 | 08:44 AM
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Just wondering here but isn't BLM land range land? I would think if that were the case then the officals in charge are trying to head off trouble with some JERK shooting a cow or some thing by closeing BLM land to shooting except at range sites. Hey if a JERK will shoot up signs and leave a mess then they would shoot a cow or sheep.
Any way that could be the difference between BLM land and a FF.
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The BLM is funded, it seems, with more workers and is more intensively managed. It seems anyway. All of the BLM is intended to be grazed, though some is not. Any national forest can be grazed also with an appropriate lease and much of it is.

Iwould tend toagree that any JERK who would shoot the signs is a JERK who would shoot livestock or game out of season for that matter. They, thankfully, area minority.

I have found the BLM officers to be very friendly and helpful. In fact, making friends with them and helping out on occasionhas given me alot of "secret" (at least not well known) tips on gaining access to some out of the way BLM parcels. The attitude of BLM is great I think. Foot access is never denied, hunting access is almost never denied, they want the resource to be used and enjoyed respectfully.I have found that they have admiration for the whole of it (the land), having knowledge of the local geological, botanical, and zoological features and this admiration and knowledge is something they desire the public to share. They just take the job of protecting the resource seriously enough to close roads in wet weather and to restrict target shooting to one location only.
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