trharder

Just for fun, I bought some Hornaday 200 grain .40 bullets to put in
some blue MMP sabots for my A&H 50 cal. Has anyone tried this
combination? Where would you start with powder? I can use either
209's or #11s. I have 777 loose 2f, 777 50 gr. pellets and 50 gr.
pyrodex pellets to chose from. As soon as the weather lines out a
little, I want to give it a go. Those blue sabots are very thick. I
wonder how they will load?
Tim

cayugad

I shoot them out of a couple rifles and in my Stainless Steel I shoot them with 100 grains of Triple Se7en 2f powder with amazing accuracy. In my KnightI shoot them with 100 grains of Goex 3f with great accuracy.



that's 50 yards with open sights. It shows two different powder charges. These are with 200 grain XTP's

sabotloader

trharder

I shoot them all the time they are really a good performer... In the White I shoot with 110 grains of T7-2f (loose powder). I also shoot them froman Omega, Remington, and the A&H -

They are really a screaming bullet and have a ton of energy...

I should mention I am shooting Hornady 200 grain XTP's - can not aford to shoot the SST/SW for recreation.

You'll like 'em

savagescout

I see you are trying them in your .50 cal I want to try them in my .45 has anyone used them in a 45?

MLKeith

I had not even thought about shooting the .40 cal bullets but now you have put a bug in my ear. I have a fair selection of all lead .40 cal bullets for my 40-65 "bullalo rifle" that I guess might just be a good elk bullet if they will fly decent out of my Omega. I guess I will have to order some of the "blue sabots" and try them. Not sure about the diameter however and the possiblity of getting them loaded. They are pretty long also; maybe too long for the sabots?

chaz3815

Savagescout I shoot them in my 209x45 Encore with100gr. 777 I get under1" groups at 100 yards . I also shoot them out of my 209x50 Omega with the same groups at 100 yards .
Charlie

lemoyne

I like them I shoot the Shock Wave , the XTP and the Rainier 200gr 40 cal. with loads from 100 to 150 gr. I have taken deer and boar with them and had excellant results but Ihave only been using them for a year. Lee

trharder

Thanks Cayugad and all.

I finally got my sabots and went ahead and shot yesterday.
It was about 15 degrees and the wind was blowing about
25 mph, so I shot at 50 yards. I shot a three shot group
that looked quite a bit like Cayugad's group he posted on
here. I was using a scope though, so I would consider his
group more impressive. I was right at 4" high at 50 yds.
Pretty much dead center. I am anxios to shoot at 100 yds.
I used two 50 gr. 777 pellets and 209 ignition. The bullet
I ended up buying was the Hornaday 200 gr. HP/XTP. I
really liked the price. The sabots cost more than the bullets.
LOL.. They loaded a little tight in my A&H, but not that big
a deal. A lot more noise and splash than actual recoil.
I want to try the loose 777 and posibly #11 ignition, but I
really feel the main limitation is my shooting and not the
gun or the load at this point.

sabotloader

trharder

Have you installed the percussion hammer in your gun before? When you go to install your #11 hammer and nipple there is somewhat of a science to doing that. In most A&H's unless you get everything installed just right shooting #11's can be a problem. The problem being getting consistent ignition from the cap.

Which A&H do you have, one of the ones made in Missouri or the newer models made in Utah? The reason I ask is there were two different hammer springs made for the the guns a very stiff spring and a lighter spring. Both of my A&H'sare the older models from Missouri, other than a little heavyand a little long they were very good ML's.

trharder

Sabotloader,
I have the gun that was supposedly made in Provo Utah.
That's what it says on the barrel.

I don't know where my gun fits into your thinking, but I
think it is still a pretty good gun. I only have one hammer.
The destruction manual calls it a "Universal" hammer. LOL.
I know what you mean about a "science" to getting the #11s
to go off reliably. I don't know about the stiffness of the
spring on the bolt I have. I don't have anything to compare
it to. It seems pretty stiff. I have taken the bolt down.