RE: Shooting Artillery bullets....
 

cayugad

Dave, I do not even know what they look like - I'll try to find some on the net - ya no! looks are everything - can not shoot a bullet that doesn't have class...

What are your feelings between the two bullets, again remembering I have not shot conicals.... I do want to get one bullet for both elk and deer - for me making hunting adjustements with open sights is much more difficult than adjustments with a scope...

Found them - they do not look that bad at all - Hollow Points right... wonder what the BC on them might be? and if they will fly as well as the NE's...

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yeoman

I like that handle... "Conicaloader" - but I really do not want to get to attached to conicals.... I hunt all year with ML's now so really most of my hunting will still be with sabots and Noslers or Speers...

Conicaloader - some body should jump all over that handle....

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I have no idea of the BC of the buffalo bullet conicals. Of the ones your shooting I would think the No Excuse would be the best choice. Well good luck with them. I will have to try some of the Bull Shop conicals out of my GMB and see how they shoot.

RE: Shooting Artillery bullets....
 

cayugad

The only reason I have a BC on the NE is "Big 6x6" tested them along with some White conicals for UC

Cascadedad has a bunch of Bullshops - that are undersized for his White - I am going to get a few of those from him and try them also - maybe - I think... I am headed over to Kennewick this weekend - the grandkids have baseketball and indoor soccer games this weekend - so I will probably make contact with Glen over there....

I respect your opinion on the NE's I am pretty sure you are the one that first drew my interest to them vs powerbelts...

RE: Shooting Artillery bullets....
 

Mike,

Since you have a chrony anda good working knowledge of using ballistics program, you can easily adjust the elevation from one load to another, (even windage if you have a typical T/Crear sight with the screw windage adjustment with graduations) Below I describe how to do it. Also, you can log sight locations in grads so that you can go right back to anold setting for a previous load.


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Dave, its precisely 2 MOA per grad. Everysight has an MOA per grad. Its nice when its a whole number like 2, makes it easy for adjustment. Its a very simple thing once you know what the drop/grad ratio is. The easiest way to find it is to shoot the rifle. I like 25 yards because one can do a considerable change in MOA and still be on target and the sighting MOA is small. First pick a Major Grad low on the ramp, shoot a 3 shot group, Next take a large step up in grads, I did nine when doing the Apex. The larger the step up the more the change in ramp position will swamp sighting error. Just divide the inches separating the centers of the upper and lower groupby the number of grads adjusted.Multiply that by 4 to get inches per grad at 100 yards. This number is roughly the MOA per grad.

Then its just a matterknowing the trajectory. In my case, if I am4" lower than I want to be at 100 yards, just adjust 2 grads. This because the drop from the boreline is the same no matterwhere the boreline is pointed.So need to lift the POI of 4" at100 yards" just lift the borelineso that it intersects100 yards4 inches higher. It's handy stuff.

RE: Shooting Artillery bullets....
 

Pglasgow

That is my problem right now the GM barrel came with williams sights. They are what I call bump and guess - you loosen a screw and push the it up or down the ramp - the windage is even more difficult to adjust... I am going to replace the rear sight and hope the front is the correct height to work.




The graduation marks on the side are hard to use and there are not windage marks....

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Atleast yours has markings on it, my new ones had zero, i just got done making a little scratch so i know where im at if i adjust for different bullets. Im not a big fan of those williams sights, they were always to blurry for me and somewhat harder to line up.

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If you can get a T/C fiberoptic rear sight I bet it would work perfect.I have not found any noticeable difference between loads on windage POI, so once you have that pinned down, you can probably leave that untouched (provided the sight is aligned with bore) between different loads. The grads on my rifle sight for elevationare similar to whatyou have and it works great for me. I won't have any trouble making an elevation adjustment just as soon as I know wherea load prints in elevation. Sorry its not helping you though, I tried:).

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I must of missed something, what kind of gun was shooting 1500fps with 80gr of 777 and a 460NE?

I am only getting 1470fps using 90gr of 777 and the 460NE. I have a 26" barrel so if you have a longer barrel it may account for the difference. Maybe the bore is a bit tighter and therefore develops a bit more pressure. Just interested in what made the difference.

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I fyou want a flatter trajectory try some lighter conicals. How about the Buffalo Ballet or the Buckslayers.