Keith Nose Bullets
01-09-2007 | 09:40 AM
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RE: Keith Nose Bullets
I have used some of the 255 grain .452 hardcast bullets produced by Colorado Cast Bullets in Montrose, CO with good results. They are a Keith style bullet, but are very hard and don't expand much. Cost factor is very low. Accuracy was not quite as good as some of the other MZ specific bullets, like the Shockwave and Barnes Expander, but still good enough for most hunting - apple size groups at 100 yards. I understand that CCB also makes this bullet in pure lead for shooting bowling pins. Might be worth a try - I'm sure this one would expand to some degree.
01-09-2007 | 04:14 PM
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RE: Keith Nose Bullets
ORIGINAL: Pglasgow
Chap, I think to some extent, the need for a full 800 ft-lbs, with a .45 cal or larger bullet, is to some degree exagerated. The important thing is shot placement. If it goes into an area that with quickly kill the animal, one is going to recover their quarry.
If you notice, this keith nose has a generous, even more generous hollowpoint than a Powerbelt. It aids expansion while the rear of the heavy bullet pushes it through creating a devastating wound channel where a significant portion of the bullets energy was dissipated. All of the bullets, from what I could read, were recovered after passing completely through.
ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman
Read the center of the page, about his testing methods and such. What do you think of his theory of energy transfer?
Chap
Read the center of the page, about his testing methods and such. What do you think of his theory of energy transfer?
Chap
If you notice, this keith nose has a generous, even more generous hollowpoint than a Powerbelt. It aids expansion while the rear of the heavy bullet pushes it through creating a devastating wound channel where a significant portion of the bullets energy was dissipated. All of the bullets, from what I could read, were recovered after passing completely through.
Yes, I noticed that about the design, and I notice for most"standard ml users"that they want Hollow Pointwith <=100g loads. However the High Performance MLer want balistic coefficient and up to 150g, so they get 200 yard shot. I agree shot placement is number 1. Then penetration, bullet expansion/wound channel/ and energy transfer, then exit the animal for blood trail. That is the "perfect bullet", deep controlled expansion, massive tissue damage, exit the animal in most cases. Double shouldner no, that is asking too much from an expanding bullet, hard nosed or case, yes, but not good in general for deer/light skinned animals.
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01-09-2007 | 04:16 PM
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RE: Keith Nose Bullets
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I have used some of the 255 grain .452 hardcast bullets produced by Colorado Cast Bullets in Montrose, CO with good results. They are a Keith style bullet, but are very hard and don't expand much. Cost factor is very low. Accuracy was not quite as good as some of the other MZ specific bullets, like the Shockwave and Barnes Expander, but still good enough for most hunting - apple size groups at 100 yards. I understand that CCB also makes this bullet in pure lead for shooting bowling pins. Might be worth a try - I'm sure this one would expand to some degree.
I have used some of the 255 grain .452 hardcast bullets produced by Colorado Cast Bullets in Montrose, CO with good results. They are a Keith style bullet, but are very hard and don't expand much. Cost factor is very low. Accuracy was not quite as good as some of the other MZ specific bullets, like the Shockwave and Barnes Expander, but still good enough for most hunting - apple size groups at 100 yards. I understand that CCB also makes this bullet in pure lead for shooting bowling pins. Might be worth a try - I'm sure this one would expand to some degree.
