My dad is thinking about getting a Muzzleloader. I shoot traditionals but he want's an inline so I do not know much about them. What would you suggest for around 400 or less. Here in Colorado no scopes, sabots, pellets. I think a White would be good since they seem to shoot conicals really good.

Thanks

Are Powerbelt bullets legal? They are not a sabot. If Powerbelts are legal, you could get him an Omega X7 with the peep sight for $450.00.

See BP link. Iteven has a Sims recoil pad.

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The White Rifle would be another excellent choice, if you can find one for $400 or less.

So what you're looking for is a conical or roundball shooter... then a White would be a good choice. Also Roskoe had some luck shooting conicals out of his Remington I believe. Some of the BPI inlines shoot powerbelts real well. The trouble is if you want an almost guaranteed conical shooter then a White would be the way to go. Perhaps a nice White Rifle from Doc's site would fit the bill. Put a Lyman Peep site on that and you have a 150 yard rifle without a problem.

what part of colorado?

Your best bet would be to stay away from the omegas. Very few people can get them to shoot powerbelts/conicals. As for the white rifle, ive never heard any complaints. But my question is, will they shoot a lighter weight conical the same as a huge heavy one they are known for shooting?

Why shoot a lighter weight conical? When you can tailor the powder to shoot anywhere from 70gn to 100 or more... Whites are designed to shoot best with 460gn or above. They can shoot lighter... but shoot best with a mid-weight and above. The way the stocks are designed, they handle recoil well.

exactly flatland hunter. Why would you want to shoot a light weight conical? I hunt deer with a 500 grain conical. I shoot 70 grains of Triple Se7en 3f powder. It would be deadly at about any range I wanted to sight the rifle in for. I could hunt them with a 460 grain or even a 320 grain REAL conical, but the accuracy is fantastic with a 500 grain and I am almost assured of pass through.

If I wanted to hunt elk I would kick that load up to 100 even 120 grains of powder and a 500 grain conical. With a good peep sight, again, working up the load, this would blast an elk off their feet or make them want to soon lay down, at some very respectable distances.

Whilea heavy conical might have a more rainbow trajectory, the fact still is that the energy will be there at the end of the ride. Also the manner you sight in really negates the rainbow trajectory. Some White shooters with scopes are taking deer out to 200 yards without problems... pretty good thump for a big conical out there.

Its nice when you can sit in a blind or tree stand and get those 10-50 yard shots, thats when the heavy conicals are nice. But when you are looking at a 120-160 yard shot out in the open with barely any sage brush for cover, those heavy conicals are not the ones i want to shoot. I used the 385 great plains bullet this year and wasnt impressed at all with the work they did. i like a bullet in the 295+ range for mule deer. A 500 grain bullet where i hunt would be worthless for me. I was just simply wondering how the white rifles shoot lighter weight bullets is all. I like them also, especially the one roger raglin used to shoot in his younger years. I think dicks sporting goods still sells the power punch bullets. I like the lighter weight bullets because they shoot flatter and dont give me the rainbow tragectory.

Powderbelts are legal in Colorado. He really likes the Hornady Great Plains from when I shot it out of my Renegade.

Whites shoot lighter conicals fine, and sabots as well.. I have yet to find very little that I had stuffed down it that the rifle did not do a good job with, all excpet a few certain conicals..

Cayugad, if you don't mind my asking, which conicals did not do well in your White?