Sabots and Bullets
08-10-2006, 03:30 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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Sabots and Bullets
I have noticed several things,
#1 Shock Wave sabots seem to me to be in the middle between MMP-HPH12 and MMP-HPH24 and they fit my TC barrels the best as the12 is to tight and the 24 is just a little loose. They also shoot the tightest group .80 inch.
Today I worked on the 50/40 200grXTP it shoots best with 110gr APP where as thr 50/40-200gr Shock wave shoots best with either 100gr or 150gr.
The groups are .80 and 1.25 100yd.
#2 the Shock wave 250 gr Shoots best with 125gr APP FF or 130 RS .80 again. The 250gr XTP shoots 1 inch with 100gr with aMMP 12 and .8 with
90grAPP-FF.
# 3 The Big Game .475 won't even stay on the target with anythingI have tried [APP-FF--777---RS] and the .458 are not a hole lot better about 4 to 5 inch groups @100.
# 4 While I dont trust them to hole together I like to know what my options are so while I am not using these loads at the moment I did check them out.Power Belts best load, 245gr copper plated -APP-FF 150 gr group 1.25 inch@POI, the 338 group 2 inch with 100gr 10 inch below POI.
The 250 Sabor Tooth groups 1.5 inch with 150 gr APP-FF @POI
One of the reasons I am posting this is because I have had the impression severel times that some one was trying to get a certain load or bullet to work andI believe that what works for us oldtimers works because we know how to find what the gun likes and then take our choices with in the guns capabilities. Please comment.Lee
#1 Shock Wave sabots seem to me to be in the middle between MMP-HPH12 and MMP-HPH24 and they fit my TC barrels the best as the12 is to tight and the 24 is just a little loose. They also shoot the tightest group .80 inch.
Today I worked on the 50/40 200grXTP it shoots best with 110gr APP where as thr 50/40-200gr Shock wave shoots best with either 100gr or 150gr.
The groups are .80 and 1.25 100yd.
#2 the Shock wave 250 gr Shoots best with 125gr APP FF or 130 RS .80 again. The 250gr XTP shoots 1 inch with 100gr with aMMP 12 and .8 with
90grAPP-FF.
# 3 The Big Game .475 won't even stay on the target with anythingI have tried [APP-FF--777---RS] and the .458 are not a hole lot better about 4 to 5 inch groups @100.
# 4 While I dont trust them to hole together I like to know what my options are so while I am not using these loads at the moment I did check them out.Power Belts best load, 245gr copper plated -APP-FF 150 gr group 1.25 inch@POI, the 338 group 2 inch with 100gr 10 inch below POI.
The 250 Sabor Tooth groups 1.5 inch with 150 gr APP-FF @POI
One of the reasons I am posting this is because I have had the impression severel times that some one was trying to get a certain load or bullet to work andI believe that what works for us oldtimers works because we know how to find what the gun likes and then take our choices with in the guns capabilities. Please comment.Lee
08-10-2006, 05:42 PM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Sabots and Bullets
Lee, I have been shooting Hornady XTP 260gr out of my Knight "Wolverine" for years and have no need to change. I use 85grs of loose Pyrodex and Large Rifle Primers. It willknock off 1lbcoffee can'son a rail fence@ 125yds. Before trying the Hornadys I tried many others.
08-10-2006, 06:44 PM
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RE: Sabots and Bullets
Right you have one that works, there are some that seem to be having a problem finding that one that works.
How do you set up the large rifle primers? I know about the small rifle primers but have not come across the set up for the large ones. Lee
How do you set up the large rifle primers? I know about the small rifle primers but have not come across the set up for the large ones. Lee
08-10-2006, 07:09 PM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Sabots and Bullets
ORIGINAL: lemoyne
How do you set up the large rifle primers? I know about the small rifle primers but have not come across the set up for the large ones. Lee
How do you set up the large rifle primers? I know about the small rifle primers but have not come across the set up for the large ones. Lee
08-11-2006, 07:06 AM
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RE: Sabots and Bullets
I believe that the depth of the rifling as well as the twist controls that. thats why certain rifles are more dependable for the big bullets with no sabot . Like the White ultra, perhaps we can get Cayuqad to coment. Lee
08-11-2006, 09:34 AM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Sabots and Bullets
All my inlines seem to have one thing in common. They all seem tolike XTP's for some reason among other projectiles. While some do not shoot conicals as well as sabots, as lemoyne and others noted, they do seem to like a certain sabot, powder charge, etc. When all this is combined they produce excellent accuracy. This stuff concerning rifling depth, and kind of rifling is a new area for me. I enjoy reading posts from people when they explain button rifling or degree of rifling depth, etc.
Most of the results posters report are very similar to my range experiences.
Most of the results posters report are very similar to my range experiences.
