I do, you could be driving them hard to stablize them on the long haul. My shots would never be over 100yds unless we find something on a powerline or something like that. So when we sight in we look what the bullet is doing at 50-100yds.

I don't doubt your results ballistics are very grey to say the least.

Over on another board I post on everyone says a T/C 1:48 is not a good barrel to shoot roundball out of and dozens of people have posted good targets and they all just say it's some kind of aboration. I guess the Hawken brothers had it right when they settled on 1:48 for their rifles.

I have a T/C Hawken,1:48, just sighted it this past weekend with 380 REALS,90 GR.T7,wonder wad, bench. I was getting 3 inch groups at 100 yds. I think it shoots these 380REALS better than a patched RB.

I think I know what forum you're talking about. That's a bunch of bunk. I have a lot of 1-48 twist barrels and T/C's and they are all good roundball shooters. Its just a matter of taking the time to find the load, patch and ball. After that the rest is easy.

Where do you guys buy your REAL conicals? I'd like to try them, but never see them around?

I have found that few 48" twists are good 100 yard shooters. But for 50-75 yards max, they are fine. The 48" twist rifles to be leery-of for roundball shooting at 100 yards are the more modern 48's coming from inexpensive ML manufacturers that provide shallow, button-rifling.