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cur_dog 03-08-2006 07:58 AM

.429 sabots
 
I was wondering if you can push these sabots as hard as say a HPH24 black MMP sabot?

Reason I ask is I'm wanting to shoot the Swift A-frame and the options are either .44 or .45 cal. My gun is a Disc Elite.

I can buy the .429 in packs of 10 with sabots. Other option would be to buy a box of 50 count in the .45 and buy sabots.

Thanks.

sabotloader 03-08-2006 08:37 AM

RE: .429 sabots
 
cur_dog

Certainly if they are the new "polymere" plastic... if they are the old style of plastic you might need to use a sub-base to prevent blow-outs...

MMP does produce a HPH Green .429/.430 sabot and I am sure that Harvester's new green sabot is rated for 150 grains.

I think if you do the math you will find it is less expensive to purchase a box of bullets and a package of sabots.... but then if you are just experimenting it may be to your advantage to but the short package. I have opened boxes of all kinds of bullets sitting around from "experiments."
And I guess I should I have all kinds of packs of un-used sabots stuffed here and there also... Terry keeps hoping my interest in this thing called ML'ing will disappear, it would certainly help the household buget...


cur_dog 03-08-2006 08:51 AM

RE: .429 sabots
 
The A-frames would be coming from Midway and are on order so I would think the sabots would be current. The Noslers would be coming from them too. Was thinking about buying to packs of each. To bad the A-frames only come in .44 with sabots. I like the .45 better in general.

Do youhave any A-frames laying around? Nosler HG's? I'll buy them from you. Ihate tohave to spend 35 a box on the A-frame and Nosler's if they do not shoot well.

sabotloader 03-08-2006 09:10 AM

RE: .429 sabots
 
cur_dog

No A-Frames, but I know I have 44 cal Noslers - 250 grain a couple of boxes I think... 3 or four boxes of 44 cal XTP's 300 grain.. 300 grain SST's but they are 45 cal and some Barnes but I can not remember what...



Pglasgow 03-08-2006 09:12 AM

RE: .429 sabots
 

ORIGINAL: sabotloader

Terry keeps hoping my interest in this thing called ML'ing will disappear, it would certainly help the household buget...

God bless our wives . . . God bless them every one :D

Happy Hunting, Phil

cur_dog 03-08-2006 09:30 AM

RE: .429 sabots
 
Mike, sounds like you need to take a bullet inventory!

Do I have to bless ex wives? [8D]

cur_dog 03-08-2006 11:04 AM

RE: .429 sabots
 
Hey Mike, who makes the nosler sabots when you buy them in packs?
Do you know who make the Swift sabots?

Roskoe 03-08-2006 11:19 AM

RE: .429 sabots
 
I have never gotten the .429's to shoot as well as the .451's with any sabot. Some were acceptable, but none better than about 2.5" at 100 yards. Most 3 to 5 inches. Of course, I'm really only looking at loads in the 2,000 fps bracket. Maybe they shoot just as well with non magnum loads.

cur_dog 03-08-2006 11:24 AM

RE: .429 sabots
 
Hey Roskoe,

The more I think about it, the more i'm thinking about staying with the .451 - .452 bullets. I will probably get one pack of the .44 A-frames just to see.I called Swift earlier and they said the make their own sabots.
I asked about different formulation runs but they did hot have an answer.


sabotloader 03-08-2006 11:55 AM

RE: .429 sabots
 
cur_dog

today if you were to buy Noslers - you would be buying HPH-24's a couple of years back they would have been harvesters...

Swift - I think they really do there own but on the HPH-12 frame - they are a bear to get down...




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