.429 sabots
03-08-2006, 07:58 AM
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Fork Horn
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.429 sabots
I was wondering if you can push these sabots as hard as say a HPH24 black MMP sabot?
Reason I ask is I'm wanting to shoot the Swift A-frame and the options are either .44 or .45 cal. My gun is a Disc Elite.
I can buy the .429 in packs of 10 with sabots. Other option would be to buy a box of 50 count in the .45 and buy sabots.
Thanks.
Reason I ask is I'm wanting to shoot the Swift A-frame and the options are either .44 or .45 cal. My gun is a Disc Elite.
I can buy the .429 in packs of 10 with sabots. Other option would be to buy a box of 50 count in the .45 and buy sabots.
Thanks.
03-08-2006, 08:37 AM
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RE: .429 sabots
cur_dog
Certainly if they are the new "polymere" plastic... if they are the old style of plastic you might need to use a sub-base to prevent blow-outs...
MMP does produce a HPH Green .429/.430 sabot and I am sure that Harvester's new green sabot is rated for 150 grains.
I think if you do the math you will find it is less expensive to purchase a box of bullets and a package of sabots.... but then if you are just experimenting it may be to your advantage to but the short package. I have opened boxes of all kinds of bullets sitting around from "experiments."
And I guess I should I have all kinds of packs of un-used sabots stuffed here and there also... Terry keeps hoping my interest in this thing called ML'ing will disappear, it would certainly help the household buget...
Certainly if they are the new "polymere" plastic... if they are the old style of plastic you might need to use a sub-base to prevent blow-outs...
MMP does produce a HPH Green .429/.430 sabot and I am sure that Harvester's new green sabot is rated for 150 grains.
I think if you do the math you will find it is less expensive to purchase a box of bullets and a package of sabots.... but then if you are just experimenting it may be to your advantage to but the short package. I have opened boxes of all kinds of bullets sitting around from "experiments."
And I guess I should I have all kinds of packs of un-used sabots stuffed here and there also... Terry keeps hoping my interest in this thing called ML'ing will disappear, it would certainly help the household buget...
03-08-2006, 08:51 AM
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Fork Horn
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RE: .429 sabots
The A-frames would be coming from Midway and are on order so I would think the sabots would be current. The Noslers would be coming from them too. Was thinking about buying to packs of each. To bad the A-frames only come in .44 with sabots. I like the .45 better in general.
Do youhave any A-frames laying around? Nosler HG's? I'll buy them from you. Ihate tohave to spend 35 a box on the A-frame and Nosler's if they do not shoot well.
Do youhave any A-frames laying around? Nosler HG's? I'll buy them from you. Ihate tohave to spend 35 a box on the A-frame and Nosler's if they do not shoot well.
03-08-2006, 09:10 AM
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RE: .429 sabots
cur_dog
No A-Frames, but I know I have 44 cal Noslers - 250 grain a couple of boxes I think... 3 or four boxes of 44 cal XTP's 300 grain.. 300 grain SST's but they are 45 cal and some Barnes but I can not remember what...
No A-Frames, but I know I have 44 cal Noslers - 250 grain a couple of boxes I think... 3 or four boxes of 44 cal XTP's 300 grain.. 300 grain SST's but they are 45 cal and some Barnes but I can not remember what...
03-08-2006, 09:12 AM
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RE: .429 sabots
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Terry keeps hoping my interest in this thing called ML'ing will disappear, it would certainly help the household buget...
Terry keeps hoping my interest in this thing called ML'ing will disappear, it would certainly help the household buget...
Happy Hunting, Phil
03-08-2006, 11:19 AM
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RE: .429 sabots
I have never gotten the .429's to shoot as well as the .451's with any sabot. Some were acceptable, but none better than about 2.5" at 100 yards. Most 3 to 5 inches. Of course, I'm really only looking at loads in the 2,000 fps bracket. Maybe they shoot just as well with non magnum loads.
03-08-2006, 11:24 AM
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Fork Horn
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RE: .429 sabots
Hey Roskoe,
The more I think about it, the more i'm thinking about staying with the .451 - .452 bullets. I will probably get one pack of the .44 A-frames just to see.I called Swift earlier and they said the make their own sabots.
I asked about different formulation runs but they did hot have an answer.
The more I think about it, the more i'm thinking about staying with the .451 - .452 bullets. I will probably get one pack of the .44 A-frames just to see.I called Swift earlier and they said the make their own sabots.
I asked about different formulation runs but they did hot have an answer.
03-08-2006, 11:55 AM
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RE: .429 sabots
cur_dog
today if you were to buy Noslers - you would be buying HPH-24's a couple of years back they would have been harvesters...
Swift - I think they really do there own but on the HPH-12 frame - they are a bear to get down...
today if you were to buy Noslers - you would be buying HPH-24's a couple of years back they would have been harvesters...
Swift - I think they really do there own but on the HPH-12 frame - they are a bear to get down...