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Old 11-06-2005, 04:59 PM
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About two weeks ago, one of my customers was telling me about his elk hunt from the first season. He used a scoped .454 Casul revolver with the new 300 grain Speer Gold Dot bullets (.452). These Gold Dot bullets are bonded, and he showed me one dug out of a bull elk - that, incidently,went down in two steps. Expanded to a huge frontal diameter without losing any apparent weight. They aren'tvery expensive - less than $20 for a box of 50 - so I ordered some last week.

Today at the range, I tried them with the regular short Harvester sabots (not the crushed rib) over 130 grains of Pyrodex pellets. They shot 1.7" at 100 yards in a fair little breeze - and hit to the exact same point of impact as the 250 Shockwaves with this same charge. This might be a good alternative to expensive premium bullets like the Barnes X or the Nosler Partition HG.
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Old 11-06-2005, 06:06 PM
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speer and hornady 45 cal,451. with a mmp sabot are the only bullets i have used in the last 15 years for hunting ,buy them a 100 at a time and get the sabots the same way you will save enough money to get the powder for free. I have tried the 44 bullets but the 45 work the best for me. I first bought speer185 and 200 gr.hollow points with 90 gr.s of powder. Killed a bunch of good deer with them and then wild hogs moved into my area so I started using 300 gr.speers and a little more powder.This year i got a tc omega with a 28 in'' barrel,this gun shoots 230 gr.xtp hollow points with 150 gr.of loose 777. like I always wanted a ml to do. Any thing that stops in front of it i can hit, out to 220 yards. The bullet drop at 200 yards is 15 in''. at 150 yards it only drops a inch or just a little more. At 100 to point blank just put the crosshairs where you want the bullet to hit. I have never bought any thing else that groups as good as the 230 gr. xtps. A box of 100 cost about $12.00 and a 100 mmp sabots cost me $10.00,thats about as good as it gets.I have ordered a mold that makes 230 gr. bullets out of pure lead. can't wait to pour up a few 100.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:08 PM
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I've shot Speer Gold Dot bullets but not the 300 grain. These were the 240 & 270 grain Speer Gold Dot Soft Point. They are .429 diameter. They shoot all right but I can not push them hard. Maybe this hollow point design will shoot better. I will have to remember them when I place my next order.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:48 PM
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My experience was the same with the 270 gr. .429 Gold Dot. Shot OK - nothing to write home about. Too bad, because this bullet has some excellent expansion characteristics. The entire line of Gold Dot bullets has the copper electroplated over the lead core and, like the new Fusion bullets that Federal has out this year, they are essentially a one piece slug that can't have a core/jacket separation.

This particular Gold Dot bulletis specifically designed to perform athigher velocities than the regular pistol-type Gold Dots. I'd imagine you could push it to maybe 1800 fps out ofthe .454 Casull. I'm kind of excited to try them on something . . . . we'll see what comes up the next few months. I wish I had a digital photo of that big expanded slug. It was impressive.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:52 PM
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send me a link for a store on them would you.. so I can make sure we are looking at the same bullet. They do sound intersting. The Barnes and Nosler are just too expensive to shoot. I like to shoot the same bullets I hunt with.
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Old 11-06-2005, 09:13 PM
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Check out Midway. 1-800-243-3220. They are product #719-430.
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Old 11-06-2005, 10:18 PM
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thanks Roscoe.. I will be looking forward to further range reports about them from you.
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