NEED A MAGNUM FOR BIG GAME??
#21
Fork Horn
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From: MN USA
jjjj- Welcome to our forum. Perhaps you can give us the tree huggers view on how we should manage the populations of these animals. Maybe we should set up Planned Parenting clinics for them, and try to convice them not to have kids!
#25
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From: Logan, UT/ NW Penna
jjjj welcome to the forum on which you have come to try to change our views.
Why is it that radicals are the ones that have to change the way others around them think and act? We don't come to you and tell you to hunt and eat meat, that what you are doing is wrong. I feel there is nothing wrong with killing deer. Or bugs, flies, spiders...
My cat kills mice. Doesn't eat them, just plays with them. Should I shoot my cat up the arse because he kills things?? I don't think so.
Free radicals are cells that change the genetic make-up of every cell they come in contact with. Then they change every cell they come in contact with. In a short time, all cells have been altered. Mad Cow is a free radical. Destroying without any control. The infected organism then dies.
Catch my drift? Or should I spoon feed you, jjjj??
Why is it that radicals are the ones that have to change the way others around them think and act? We don't come to you and tell you to hunt and eat meat, that what you are doing is wrong. I feel there is nothing wrong with killing deer. Or bugs, flies, spiders...
My cat kills mice. Doesn't eat them, just plays with them. Should I shoot my cat up the arse because he kills things?? I don't think so.
Free radicals are cells that change the genetic make-up of every cell they come in contact with. Then they change every cell they come in contact with. In a short time, all cells have been altered. Mad Cow is a free radical. Destroying without any control. The infected organism then dies.
Catch my drift? Or should I spoon feed you, jjjj??
#26
Magnums for big game? Who cares! I have owned a 300 Win. Mag. for 20 years and hunted with it for only one year, the first. Kicks like a horse. Primarily I use a 30-06, used it in Colorado this year for mule deer. Haven't been elk hunting yet, but plan to in 2004.
It all comes down to bullet placement. I grew up here in Georgia where we didn't have a deer season in the county where I live until 1969. Our big game was wild hogs. I've killed hundreds over the years, and most of those was killed with a 22 Long Rifle. When I got my first 22 Win. Mag. I thought I was in mag heaven, and that Mag was in a Ruger Single Six. Did I mention, I was close, sometimes within 10 feet, hunting skill, shot placement, etc., are all important. I have had friends that never hunted wild hogs show up with all sorts of guns and calibers and they couldn't believe I was using a 22 Mag.
So I don't care what you use, but use it well, know your limitations, and you will succeed.
dog1
It all comes down to bullet placement. I grew up here in Georgia where we didn't have a deer season in the county where I live until 1969. Our big game was wild hogs. I've killed hundreds over the years, and most of those was killed with a 22 Long Rifle. When I got my first 22 Win. Mag. I thought I was in mag heaven, and that Mag was in a Ruger Single Six. Did I mention, I was close, sometimes within 10 feet, hunting skill, shot placement, etc., are all important. I have had friends that never hunted wild hogs show up with all sorts of guns and calibers and they couldn't believe I was using a 22 Mag.
So I don't care what you use, but use it well, know your limitations, and you will succeed.
dog1
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jjj, are you gone yet? Sexual frustration huh? I am wondering where you found research or facts to argue that someone who shoots firearms is sexually frustrated? Mind posting some neutral links that support your conclusion? What exactly is the correlation between firearms and sex? Please, I am dying to know...if it makes people all pent up the girlfriend is getting some new guns at once!!
I always find it interesting that the radicals are the ones who do not think that their arguments need supporting facts and/or research.
jjj, have you ever pulled the trigger on an animal? Have you ever researched conservation and it's effects on habitat, wildlife, and the ecosystem in general? Or were you just sitting in your dorm room, bored before your next college socialists meeting, thinking that some hard working people needed to be bothered by some extremism?
IF indeed you do have facts to support your claim, I welcome them on this board. Now, I think I will go eat some elk jerky while I fantasize about the next time I can pull the trigger on something that goes BANG!
I always find it interesting that the radicals are the ones who do not think that their arguments need supporting facts and/or research.
jjj, have you ever pulled the trigger on an animal? Have you ever researched conservation and it's effects on habitat, wildlife, and the ecosystem in general? Or were you just sitting in your dorm room, bored before your next college socialists meeting, thinking that some hard working people needed to be bothered by some extremism?
IF indeed you do have facts to support your claim, I welcome them on this board. Now, I think I will go eat some elk jerky while I fantasize about the next time I can pull the trigger on something that goes BANG!
#29
Need a Magnum for big game. ABSOLUTLY NOT. Some peolple think you do but any caliber from 270 on up with good shot placement will take all big game in North America. Every species of Big Game in this country have been taken with flint locks before the first Magnum was even an idea. Anyone who wants a magnum can sure get one but if you can shoot, you sure don't need one.
#30
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From: Rocky Mountains, Colorado
Adrian,
Wow, that is quite a claim. How did your coastal brownie, polar bear, and interior grizzly measure out? Africa?
James,
While one may find it difficult to find a guide to stand by you on Kodiak or Afognak going after brownies with a 270, you are correct that having a magnum designation is not necessary. There are many fine non-magnum cartridges out there for the "bigger" big game in North America": 338-06, 35 Whelen, 416 Rigby, 45-70 to name a few.
EKM
Wow, that is quite a claim. How did your coastal brownie, polar bear, and interior grizzly measure out? Africa?
James,
While one may find it difficult to find a guide to stand by you on Kodiak or Afognak going after brownies with a 270, you are correct that having a magnum designation is not necessary. There are many fine non-magnum cartridges out there for the "bigger" big game in North America": 338-06, 35 Whelen, 416 Rigby, 45-70 to name a few.
EKM


