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Old 12-17-2016 | 08:41 AM
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I would think a hand held unit would be ideal for logging. I would assume you stay a bit away from the ribbon line anyway?

But when it comes to corner jumping, what other reasonably priced technology is available that is as accurate as a quality handheld? If someone believes they are going to accurately navigate a property line with a compass and not step over a property line has a serious addiction to crack. And nobody is going to justify spending $40,000.00 on hardware and software to pinpoint a corner for hunting purposes.

I would say unless there is a certified beaten path over the corner pin your only salvation would be a hand held unit.

I have never had this issue before. I get it if someone is clearly trespassing for hunting purposes. That should not be tolerated. But if you are crossing over to an adjacent property and overstep a boundary by a few feet for 10 lineal feet that shouldnt be a problem unless you are patrolling the 38th parallel.
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Old 12-17-2016 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Wonky Eye
I would think a hand held unit would be ideal for logging. I would assume you stay a bit away from the ribbon line anyway?

But when it comes to corner jumping, what other reasonably priced technology is available that is as accurate as a quality handheld? If someone believes they are going to accurately navigate a property line with a compass and not step over a property line has a serious addiction to crack. And nobody is going to justify spending $40,000.00 on hardware and software to pinpoint a corner for hunting purposes.

I would say unless there is a certified beaten path over the corner pin your only salvation would be a hand held unit.

I have never had this issue before. I get it if someone is clearly trespassing for hunting purposes. That should not be tolerated. But if you are crossing over to an adjacent property and overstep a boundary by a few feet for 10 lineal feet that shouldn't be a problem unless you are patrolling the 38th parallel.
It would be nice if it was that simple, but due to ranchers that want to keep people off the public lands along with outfitters that are leasing private lands and doing the same thing it is a can of worms. In Wyoming there is no law addressing the matter, so you're on your own in each county knowing that the G&F GWs will not issue a ticket for corner jumping, but a County Sheriff might and the local Prosecutor may back him if a person takes it to Court. I believe Montana actually has a statute making corner jumping illegal.

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Old 12-17-2016 | 10:57 AM
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The laws fluctuate from state to state, I get that. From what little I know about corner jumping, and reading this thread I think Gjersy may have screwed himself.

If he is competent in survey he is ok but I have my doubts.
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Old 12-17-2016 | 12:05 PM
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I think I'll be fine Wonky Eye, knock on wood, I left the BLM land and haven't got a ticket, yet anyway. I think they just wanted me to leave so there big dollar client/hunters could hunt without glassing me on "there mountain"
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Old 12-17-2016 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gjersy
I think I'll be fine Wonky Eye, knock on wood, I left the BLM land and haven't got a ticket, yet anyway. I think they just wanted me to leave so there big dollar client/hunters could hunt without glassing me on "there mountain"
Sadly you are probably correct gjersy. These unscrupulous outfitters and guides will stop at pretty much nothing to ILLEGALLY keep hunters off the land that WE PAY FOR! These pukes make me sick the way they buy up surrounding properties to block access to PUBLIC lands. I personally think it could be easily resolved if the NRA, SCI, and other hunting organizations would band together to put a stop to this crap. The taxes from our hunting, shooting, and fishing dollars are what pays for these lands. I think it's time we put our power of numbers to work and put the smack down on these pukes.
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Old 12-17-2016 | 02:22 PM
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I'm just confused on how they can even write a ticket in the first place? Unless the Sheriff/GW is at a known corner and sees you "corner jump" then it is all hear-say and they can't even legally write the ticket. Even if the landowner sees you, unless he's standing on his legally marked corner then it won't matter either.
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Old 12-17-2016 | 02:27 PM
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The NRA does not get involved with things like you're talking about super hunt54. The big ranchers that own millions of acres have the politicians in their hip pocket and it's mostly politicians that are holding us back from getting access to OUR public land. Montana actually had a Bill introduced in their Legislature a year or two ago to allow corner crossing and it was defeated, all because of the backlash by big ranchers who cried that their property would be ruined by the public, LOL! As much as I hate to say it, IMHO this needs to be taken care of at the national level such that every state has to allow access to landlocked public property in one way or another. That is another very slippery slope to cross when you are talking about the Feds and individual state's rights. IMHO corner crossing would be the very simple one to solve in that wherever there is no legal corned marker a survey could be done and a permanent marker could be installed such that crossing there would do no damage to the private property on either side. Many corners like we're talking about are already marked. It is a whole different situation and difficult to figure out what could be done to allow access onto public property that is completely surrounded by private property. It would almost be necessary to use eminent domain to take a chunk of the private land and make it public land so that it could be legally accessed by the public if a rancher would not sell that piece voluntarily for a fair price and I doubt that will ever happen.

Jeepkid---What you have stated sounds very simple, but when you start talking politics like I mentioned in my other paragraph it's not that simple!

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Old 12-17-2016 | 03:04 PM
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are the corners not plainly marked like they are here in the east? if not why?
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Old 12-17-2016 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
are the corners not plainly marked like they are here in the east? if not why?
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Yep right on, I wonder to?
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Old 12-17-2016 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepkid
I'm just confused on how they can even write a ticket in the first place? Unless the Sheriff/GW is at a known corner and sees you "corner jump" then it is all hear-say and they can't even legally write the ticket. Even if the landowner sees you, unless he's standing on his legally marked corner then it won't matter either.
Jeepkid, they have to prove you corner jumped where it is legal, the proof is on the rancher.
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