Africa or Alaska?
#61
And some people might not be able to AFFORD to go other places in the world! Some of you guys that have hunted Africa seem to think it is the say all to hunting. It's not. Are there tons of different game to hunt? Sure. Is it beautiful country? Some of it is yes. Is it the absolute only place to find incredible landscapes, wonderful hunting, things that would just take the breath away from any human? Absolutely not. Just because someone has no interest in going to another country to shoot some animals isn't a bad thing at all. So how's about you treat Pete with a bit more respect and come out of your OWN small little mind Buffy!
#62
#63
And some people might not be able to AFFORD to go other places in the world! Some of you guys that have hunted Africa seem to think it is the say all to hunting. It's not. Are there tons of different game to hunt? Sure. Is it beautiful country? Some of it is yes. Is it the absolute only place to find incredible landscapes, wonderful hunting, things that would just take the breath away from any human? Absolutely not. Just because someone has no interest in going to another country to shoot some animals isn't a bad thing at all. So how's about you treat Pete with a bit more respect and come out of your OWN small little mind Buffy!
I also live in the USA. It is my country too, and I proudly served 3 years defending it.
From reading Pete's posts the past few years, I get the impression that he does most of his hunting within a hundred miles or so of his Colorado mountain home. That seems to be his world, fine. And if that is the world that he likes, fine also. But compared to the rest of the world, that is a pretty small area.
I would venture a guess that a vast majority of hunters do most of their hunting within a hundred miles or so of their homes. When I lived in Colorado almost all of my hunting was done within a hundred miles of my home. In the 40 years that I have lived in Montana, other than antelope hunts in the eastern part of the state, all of my Montana hunting has been within 200 miles of my home. Compared to the rest of the world, Colorado is a small area, Montana is a small area. Those are just simple facts.
And then Pete posted comments like " I don't know what half of those animals are" and "I never wanted to hunt animals I never heard of. I never wanted to hunt Africa, so why should I research it?"
So I came to the conclusion that Pete likes his world in Colorado, and basically doesn't give a hoot about Africa, and I posted "I guess some people just like to live in their own small world." So what? Many of us live in our own small worlds. Where's the insult? Where's the disrespect?
At least I've opened my "OWN small little mind" to the fact that we live in a big world that is loaded with a great variety of places and animals that are available for us to visit and hunt, and I've tried to enjoy some of that world.
#64
Giant Nontypical
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And Flags, how many times have you hunted Alaska?
I think it is 5. I've also dome some hunting in Canada and most the Rocky Mountain states. I grew up in CO so I've been hiking and hunting in the mountains pretty much my whole life. Thanks for asking.
Just because you have hunted five times in Africa doesn't make you all knowing Flags.
I think you're missing the point I'm trying to make. That's really not too surprising since you've done it before. My point is that many of the guys that are trashing hunting in Africa have never actually done it and they have some misguided thoughts of what it entails and what the experience is like. You know they type, look in a mirror and you'll see one.
#65
So who's throwing out insults?
I also live in the USA. It is my country too, and I proudly served 3 years defending it.
From reading Pete's posts the past few years, I get the impression that he does most of his hunting within a hundred miles or so of his Colorado mountain home. That seems to be his world, fine. And if that is the world that he likes, fine also. But compared to the rest of the world, that is a pretty small area.
I would venture a guess that a vast majority of hunters do most of their hunting within a hundred miles or so of their homes. When I lived in Colorado almost all of my hunting was done within a hundred miles of my home. In the 40 years that I have lived in Montana, other than antelope hunts in the eastern part of the state, all of my Montana hunting has been within 200 miles of my home. Compared to the rest of the world, Colorado is a small area, Montana is a small area. Those are just simple facts.
And then Pete posted comments like " I don't know what half of those animals are" and "I never wanted to hunt animals I never heard of. I never wanted to hunt Africa, so why should I research it?"
So I came to the conclusion that Pete likes his world in Colorado, and basically doesn't give a hoot about Africa, and I posted "I guess some people just like to live in their own small world." So what? Many of us live in our own small worlds. Where's the insult? Where's the disrespect?
At least I've opened my "OWN small little mind" to the fact that we live in a big world that is loaded with a great variety of places and animals that are available for us to visit and hunt, and I've tried to enjoy some of that world.
I also live in the USA. It is my country too, and I proudly served 3 years defending it.
From reading Pete's posts the past few years, I get the impression that he does most of his hunting within a hundred miles or so of his Colorado mountain home. That seems to be his world, fine. And if that is the world that he likes, fine also. But compared to the rest of the world, that is a pretty small area.
I would venture a guess that a vast majority of hunters do most of their hunting within a hundred miles or so of their homes. When I lived in Colorado almost all of my hunting was done within a hundred miles of my home. In the 40 years that I have lived in Montana, other than antelope hunts in the eastern part of the state, all of my Montana hunting has been within 200 miles of my home. Compared to the rest of the world, Colorado is a small area, Montana is a small area. Those are just simple facts.
And then Pete posted comments like " I don't know what half of those animals are" and "I never wanted to hunt animals I never heard of. I never wanted to hunt Africa, so why should I research it?"
So I came to the conclusion that Pete likes his world in Colorado, and basically doesn't give a hoot about Africa, and I posted "I guess some people just like to live in their own small world." So what? Many of us live in our own small worlds. Where's the insult? Where's the disrespect?
At least I've opened my "OWN small little mind" to the fact that we live in a big world that is loaded with a great variety of places and animals that are available for us to visit and hunt, and I've tried to enjoy some of that world.
The truth is when I went on my first elk hunt at 12 I know what I was going to do the rest of my life. I loved it, and have never gotten tired of it. I also love the Colorado Rockies, and have never gotten tired of them either.
It would have been a struggle for me to hunt all over the world like you anyway. I'm a retired truck driver. I made an average living, but not enough to travel the world. I chose a way to hunt that I could do every year.
The topic is would I like to hut Africa, or Alaska? It's a simple decision for me. Nothing in Africa appeals to me. Alaska does. It's as simple as that.
You need to realize we're all different. What you like I might hate. It's what makes us all different. If a hunter from the south loves his whitetail hunting, and has no interest in hunting the west for elk. I don't give it a second thought. That's his choice. Why you don't understand why I have no interest in hunting some of the places you've hunted is beyond me.
How about this. If you said you'd pay for the whole hunt in Africa, and it would be the best spots to hunt there with the best guides. I'd say.........Thanks, but i'm not interested.
#66
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Personally I don't see it that way. I'd love to visit and tour Africa, but not hunt when I need a cheat sheet to know what I am about to shoot. Part of the hunting for me is understanding the animal and it's habits, just don't know that about African game. Yes, I could learn, but I have along list of things I'd like to hunt here that I do know a bit about.
I'd love to expand my "small world" but a hunting trip to expand isn't my idea of fun. Now once I do expand and then learn about them, maybe then I'd want to hunt them, but not now:
- boom! ok what did I just shoot?
I'd love to expand my "small world" but a hunting trip to expand isn't my idea of fun. Now once I do expand and then learn about them, maybe then I'd want to hunt them, but not now:
- boom! ok what did I just shoot?
#67
Personally I don't see it that way. I'd love to visit and tour Africa, but not hunt when I need a cheat sheet to know what I am about to shoot. Part of the hunting for me is understanding the animal and it's habits, just don't know that about African game. Yes, I could learn, but I have along list of things I'd like to hunt here that I do know a bit about.
I'd love to expand my "small world" but a hunting trip to expand isn't my idea of fun. Now once I do expand and then learn about them, maybe then I'd want to hunt them, but not now:
- boom! ok what did I just shoot?
I'd love to expand my "small world" but a hunting trip to expand isn't my idea of fun. Now once I do expand and then learn about them, maybe then I'd want to hunt them, but not now:
- boom! ok what did I just shoot?

#68
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Foolishness. Bongo is one of the hardest game animals in the world to put into the bag. It is also one of the most expensive. Nobody simply bumps into and shoots a bongo. But, if you really want one, I know a guy in Cameroon that runs a good camp for them. If you want to go after one, expect to pony up at least $50K for the hunt and even the best of PHs that specialize in bongo run less than a 30% success rate.
By the way, you'll be hunting them on foot, in very hot and humid conditions in the thickest and dense rain forest imaginable. No stands or road hunting in bongo country. If you get a shot it will be less than a 30 yard shot. Due to the difficulty in bongo hunting, a hunt will only be booked for 21 days and bongo is probably all you'll hunt since they won't waste time with other game until a bongo is taken.
Yeah, that African hunting is just a slam dunk, wack 'em and stack 'em deal! No challenge at all.
By the way, you'll be hunting them on foot, in very hot and humid conditions in the thickest and dense rain forest imaginable. No stands or road hunting in bongo country. If you get a shot it will be less than a 30 yard shot. Due to the difficulty in bongo hunting, a hunt will only be booked for 21 days and bongo is probably all you'll hunt since they won't waste time with other game until a bongo is taken.
Yeah, that African hunting is just a slam dunk, wack 'em and stack 'em deal! No challenge at all.
#69
I wouldn't pay someone a quarter to hunt for elk my favorite game. Why would I pay anyone to hunt for a bongo? What the hell it is? I don't have enough interest to look it up.
btw...You said.................By the way, you'll be hunting them on foot, in very hot and humid conditions
That's why I picked Alaska, and why I live at 8000ft in Colorado. I hate heat, and heat is anything over 50 degrees.
So, please stop pushing Africa on some of us. It sounds horrible.
Have you hunted for bongo?
btw...You said.................By the way, you'll be hunting them on foot, in very hot and humid conditions
That's why I picked Alaska, and why I live at 8000ft in Colorado. I hate heat, and heat is anything over 50 degrees.
So, please stop pushing Africa on some of us. It sounds horrible.
Have you hunted for bongo?
Last edited by Muley Hunter; 05-27-2015 at 12:54 PM.
#70
I in NO way "Trashed" hunting in Africa Flags. The OP asked for opinions on preferences. Since I have hunted in Alaska for many years and it's a new experience every single year, even when I go to my favorite hunting spot that I know better than my own back yard, I simply stated that it's MY preference. While no I have never HUNTED in Africa, I know MANY people that have. Been in the hunting community for lots of years and know a LOT of people so granted my experience isn't first hand, I do have a pretty fair idea from the many stories of hunts from friends. From The Big 5 down to lowly little Impala hunts. Some of them loved it, some of them thought it the biggest waste of money they ever spent. It's not my cup of tea as I stated.
Now, lets just see how correct your statements are since you consider yourself such an "expert" (most of us think your just a blow hard) Flags. Don't know the price but you said they will ONLY book for 21 days minimum Well, as usual, WRONG http://www.northernoperationsafrica.com/hunt-bongo.html
13 day hunt there
http://www.hunting-faro-lobeke.com/h...ari-in-africa/
Aww shucks, 13 days there too
Matter of fact, every singe PH site I checked has them at 7 to 16 days.
May want to check on this yourself there Flags, but they ALL offered other hunts ALONGSIDE your Bongo hunt! May want to take a look in the mirror yourself there Flags. I personally think you just have a well used Google button.
Now, lets just see how correct your statements are since you consider yourself such an "expert" (most of us think your just a blow hard) Flags. Don't know the price but you said they will ONLY book for 21 days minimum Well, as usual, WRONG http://www.northernoperationsafrica.com/hunt-bongo.html
13 day hunt there
http://www.hunting-faro-lobeke.com/h...ari-in-africa/
Aww shucks, 13 days there too
Matter of fact, every singe PH site I checked has them at 7 to 16 days.
May want to check on this yourself there Flags, but they ALL offered other hunts ALONGSIDE your Bongo hunt! May want to take a look in the mirror yourself there Flags. I personally think you just have a well used Google button.


