Thoughts on this property as a hunter
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Nontypical Buck
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#13
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I used to live in the area. LaPlata and Archuleta counties WERE one of my favorite places on Earth. I still have some land there, but I'm doubtful I'll ever return to it.
We have "ranches" for sale here in WY as well. We also have "ranches" that used to be open for hunting, but were bought by a well-heeled hunter. We're becoming Texas and Wisconsin slowly but almost surely. I'm a public land hunter, so it matters not to me what people do with their money or THEIR land, but when they use it to lock the public out of public lands, I tend to become one of those who thinks that it's time to tax the bejeezus out of their "ranch" as "commercial" or "recreational" property rather than as "agricultural" property.
That particular property is South of Durango, which I remember as significantly more arid than what you'll find to the north. Water should be a concern anywhere you buy property anymore. I also recall that area as influenced by a reservation (Southern Ute?). You may want to do some checking in that regard as well. Consider that your neighbors there may still be real "ranchers" - that they might be a little reluctant to talk to you unless you have experience and plan to run some cows and commit to and cooperate with the ranching lifestyle. Otherwise, they may identify you as just another city slicker with money. On the other hand, they may already be anti-hunting transplants who are going to call the Sheriff/Tribal Police every time they hear a rifle shot from your side of the fence. Deer might stick around, but elk aren't going to stay put on 455 acres, particularly if they're shot at. How's the access in the winter? Can you stand being shut in until the county plow makes it out to you? Lastly, Durango is becoming a liberal bastion in SW Colorado. I'd start reading the Durango Herald online, particularly their letters to the editor.
It's an area in transition, and I'm certainly for any hunter moving back in over the anti-hunters who seem to be flocking to the area with all kinds of money. But, if your plan is a private hunting preserve and "No Trespassing" signs to keep people out of any BLM land it borders, what's the difference?
(Edit) As a community, we should be happy when we see that one of our own has funds enough to consider a purchase such as this, particularly when more and more land like this is being sold to the crowd who votes against us when it comes to firearms and hunting issues.
We have "ranches" for sale here in WY as well. We also have "ranches" that used to be open for hunting, but were bought by a well-heeled hunter. We're becoming Texas and Wisconsin slowly but almost surely. I'm a public land hunter, so it matters not to me what people do with their money or THEIR land, but when they use it to lock the public out of public lands, I tend to become one of those who thinks that it's time to tax the bejeezus out of their "ranch" as "commercial" or "recreational" property rather than as "agricultural" property.
That particular property is South of Durango, which I remember as significantly more arid than what you'll find to the north. Water should be a concern anywhere you buy property anymore. I also recall that area as influenced by a reservation (Southern Ute?). You may want to do some checking in that regard as well. Consider that your neighbors there may still be real "ranchers" - that they might be a little reluctant to talk to you unless you have experience and plan to run some cows and commit to and cooperate with the ranching lifestyle. Otherwise, they may identify you as just another city slicker with money. On the other hand, they may already be anti-hunting transplants who are going to call the Sheriff/Tribal Police every time they hear a rifle shot from your side of the fence. Deer might stick around, but elk aren't going to stay put on 455 acres, particularly if they're shot at. How's the access in the winter? Can you stand being shut in until the county plow makes it out to you? Lastly, Durango is becoming a liberal bastion in SW Colorado. I'd start reading the Durango Herald online, particularly their letters to the editor.
It's an area in transition, and I'm certainly for any hunter moving back in over the anti-hunters who seem to be flocking to the area with all kinds of money. But, if your plan is a private hunting preserve and "No Trespassing" signs to keep people out of any BLM land it borders, what's the difference?
(Edit) As a community, we should be happy when we see that one of our own has funds enough to consider a purchase such as this, particularly when more and more land like this is being sold to the crowd who votes against us when it comes to firearms and hunting issues.
Last edited by homers brother; 02-02-2014 at 04:54 AM.
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Giant Nontypical
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OP stated: "With every intention of letting personal friends and future friends via this forum hunt their hearts out on my land for free
Piss off. Truly."
***Yea, right, LOL! You go buy that with your 2 1/2 million inheritance or however you came into it and then come back on this thread and invite all of us out for a good old elk hunt on your land. What a bunch of BS!!! I was in the Durango area a year ago and, although it's gorgeous country, it's full of a bunch of nonhunting Liberal Dicks that I wouldn't be caught in the same county with. Sounds like you'd fit right in around there though, so have at it, LOL!
Piss off. Truly."
***Yea, right, LOL! You go buy that with your 2 1/2 million inheritance or however you came into it and then come back on this thread and invite all of us out for a good old elk hunt on your land. What a bunch of BS!!! I was in the Durango area a year ago and, although it's gorgeous country, it's full of a bunch of nonhunting Liberal Dicks that I wouldn't be caught in the same county with. Sounds like you'd fit right in around there though, so have at it, LOL!
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The connection to the tribe comes from my father's side of the family. On my mother's side, they crossed the prairies just before the Civil War and homesteaded in northeast CO near Wray. So, even if I only stress my mother's side my family has been in CO for more than 150 years. So, yes, IT IS MY COLORADO!
Just wanted to clear that up. Assumptions can be a bummer can't they?
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Actually, I am a member of the Arapaho Tribe which has been in the land that became CO for thousands of years.The bones of my ancestors have been entombed in the soil of CO since before the first "white man" ever crossed the Atlantic.
The connection to the tribe comes from my father's side of the family. On my mother's side, they crossed the prairies just before the Civil War and homesteaded in northeast CO near Wray. So, even if I only stress my mother's side my family has been in CO for more than 150 years. So, yes, IT IS MY COLORADO!
Just wanted to clear that up. Assumptions can be a bummer can't they?
The connection to the tribe comes from my father's side of the family. On my mother's side, they crossed the prairies just before the Civil War and homesteaded in northeast CO near Wray. So, even if I only stress my mother's side my family has been in CO for more than 150 years. So, yes, IT IS MY COLORADO!
Just wanted to clear that up. Assumptions can be a bummer can't they?

RR
#17
"Thanks. Could you tell me why you think it's over-priced? I've looked elsewhere in the general area and I think it's about average based on my 101-level knowledge/interpretation of various water codes, etc.
Any info would be helpful."
I did not think the property was far overpriced at all. I realize that this type of property has become much more expensive in recent years.
My point was only that it would may not be great strictly as hunting land. There may be game on the land quite a bit in winter, but during the hunting seasons it may be a much more rare event. It looks like a good place to live, and a nice ranch property.
For the same price some properties in more remote areas will probably be better hunting properties, but not quite a nice for a home due to winter access and distance to shops, restaurants, etc.
Any info would be helpful."
I did not think the property was far overpriced at all. I realize that this type of property has become much more expensive in recent years.
My point was only that it would may not be great strictly as hunting land. There may be game on the land quite a bit in winter, but during the hunting seasons it may be a much more rare event. It looks like a good place to live, and a nice ranch property.
For the same price some properties in more remote areas will probably be better hunting properties, but not quite a nice for a home due to winter access and distance to shops, restaurants, etc.
#18
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Ok Brianinco, you got your feedback, don't go anywhere, keep it coming. Let's talk about some other properties. The area south of Mancos has some good deer and some locations have great elk too. The one near Bayfield would be a much better hunting property than the one you list.
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Here you go. Can't beat this deal for an elk ranch!
http://www.realtor.com/realestateand...70-43170?row=9
http://www.realtor.com/realestateand...70-43170?row=9
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Here is another great one in great elk country.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateand...7-78698?row=24
What do you think???
http://www.realtor.com/realestateand...7-78698?row=24
What do you think???


