stubblejumper

I think that the point being made is that since the 30-30 and 30-06 are the most commonly used cartridges in use,they are responsible for both the most big game animals taken,and the most animals lost or wounded.In both cases,it is the popularity of the round that is responsible,not the performance of the round.

Crawfish7mm

I went to the Gun shop today and handled several rifles. The best feeling rifle to both myself and my buddy was the Weatherby vangard. I do own or have owned Remington 700, Savage, Ruger, and Wincherster rifles. What do you guys think (from personal experiance only) about a Weatherby rifle in 300 Weatherby Mag?

James B

That may be his point but The 30-06 sure does not come to mind when talking about a cartridge that wounds much big game. It ceratinly has the bullet weight and penetration to do in about anything that gets in its way.

I can see the 30-30 being considered a wounder because people tend to under estimate range and the 30-30 is sure at its best within 100 yards. However a lot of moose and other big game have been harvested with the 30-30 in its day. Again, my point is that wounding animals is mostly the fault of the hunter.

Wolf killer

stubblejumper, hit the nail on the head.

JamesB, What percentage of hunters in the U.S.A. are hard core & know just what there gun & bullet choice will do??? My guess, not many.
Some ammo is made for "light thin skinned" game animals, some ammo is made for "large thicker skinned" big game & some ammo is made fordangerous game.
I know people to this day that do not check there guns zero every year & buy whatever ammo is on sale. They figure it all shoots the same.
Twenty years ago I fit into this large group of un-informed hunters. Today however, thanks to reloading, countlesshours at the range, in the fieldhunting time & the internet. I am better informed, about gun & bullet choices.
I do not think the 30-06 with the proper bullet wounds deer.
I do think a 30-06 with the wrong bullet "for the game hunted" wounds deer & elk, with help from a un-informed, less than accuratehunter.

stubblejumper

While the vanguard(manfactured by Howa of Japan)is a great gun for the price,I don't like the fact that vanguards chambered in 300wby only have 24" barrels.A 26" barrel is much better at utilizing the extra case capacity.

stubblejumper

Of course it is,but that doesn't change the fact that the more popular a cartridge is,the more game that will be wounded with that cartridge.

James B

ok

younggun308

Swarovski scopes alone cost well over $1,000.

younggun308

Remington 700MTN Rifle .300 Win. Mag. $600

Nikon Monarch 4x12x40 $225

Federal Vital-Shok Nosler Partitionammo $75

Limbsaver Recoil Pad $25

A sling in Realtree Hardwoods $20

$945.00

stubblejumper

Most,but not all.


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