I've changed me mind about wolves!!
01-06-2007 | 08:58 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
If you think that the yearlings are the only ones taken, think again and take a walk in the wolds and let me know what you think after you start finding carcasses. After the rut the yearlings are no longer the weak ones. In fact, they are stronger than your older bucks/bulls at this point. They took the time to eat in late fall. Here in Idaho a big percentage of the kills in late fall and early winter are bigger bulls. They have been running their buts of chasing cows and are the last to leave when the snows hit, making them VERY vulnerable. A BIG percentage of the elk found dead here are bulls after the snow melts.
01-06-2007 | 09:10 AM
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RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
just a note- im not saying they won't take down the herd a lot, because i know the herd will be greatly effected in a negative sense.
and don't know about other states, but i know 20+ years ago the dnr was actuallypaying people to shoot wolves for this same purpose, because the hunting industry brought in so much revenue. this is what caused the native wolves to be eradicated like that and dissapear. They would give 10-20 dollars for every adult, and 5- 10 for every pup.
i think the wolf is a very cool animal, and just putting out poison everywhere would be rediculous, unless there is some system that will only get wolves and nothing else.
I wouldn't disagree with shooting them, like start a season like the coyote season here (which actually is year round) but shooting to the point of eradication again i would totally not agree with.
and don't know about other states, but i know 20+ years ago the dnr was actuallypaying people to shoot wolves for this same purpose, because the hunting industry brought in so much revenue. this is what caused the native wolves to be eradicated like that and dissapear. They would give 10-20 dollars for every adult, and 5- 10 for every pup.
i think the wolf is a very cool animal, and just putting out poison everywhere would be rediculous, unless there is some system that will only get wolves and nothing else.
I wouldn't disagree with shooting them, like start a season like the coyote season here (which actually is year round) but shooting to the point of eradication again i would totally not agree with.
01-06-2007 | 09:20 AM
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RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
I still see lots of deer sign in areas where there are wolves.I think the deer are alot more wary of every step they take though.Makes them harder to hunt.Im not so worried about deer numbers,as i am myself.Sometimes i wonder if that makes any sence at all realy.Ive dove with 50-60 sharks,held swarms of killer bees,and dont mind crawling under a house to grab a rattlesnake.But you mention WOLF, and the hair on my neck stands up.
01-08-2007 | 11:23 AM
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RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
Canada........................especially BC and Alberta have tons of elk, moose, sheep etc and lots of wolves too.
Stop sweating the small stuff.
Stop sweating the small stuff.
It's NO "small stuff" when you have to live in an area and see the game population dwindle while the wolf population is explodeing and destroying your hunting area's...
DM
01-08-2007 | 07:44 PM
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RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
ORIGINAL: DM
Your compareing apples to oranges BECAUSE of the HUGE difference in the amount of area they (the animials) have to live in.
It's NO "small stuff" when you have to live in an area and see the game population dwindle while the wolf population is explodeing and destroying your hunting area's...
DM
Canada........................especially BC and Alberta have tons of elk, moose, sheep etc and lots of wolves too.
Stop sweating the small stuff.
Stop sweating the small stuff.
It's NO "small stuff" when you have to live in an area and see the game population dwindle while the wolf population is explodeing and destroying your hunting area's...
DM
01-09-2007 | 11:02 AM
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RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
Listen I'm sick and tired of all the belly aching!
A couple of weeks ago I give you guys an idea on how to have your voice heard. Did any of you listen/ follow my advice? I'm guessing not. For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about:
Join SCI that stands for Safari Club International. they are a very large and very wealthy organization that has the resources needed to fight this battle. They have EXTREMELY SKILLED LAWYERS on staff.
Now once you've joined SCI, talk to the representative who will be going to the national convention in Reno in a few weeks. Ask this rep. to support any motions to the effect of getting Wolves off the endangered list and opening seasons on them. I know that it will be brought up because I've got personal assurances that it will.
If we get SCI's lawyer and money involved we may stand a chance on this pest.
A couple of weeks ago I give you guys an idea on how to have your voice heard. Did any of you listen/ follow my advice? I'm guessing not. For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about:
Join SCI that stands for Safari Club International. they are a very large and very wealthy organization that has the resources needed to fight this battle. They have EXTREMELY SKILLED LAWYERS on staff.
Now once you've joined SCI, talk to the representative who will be going to the national convention in Reno in a few weeks. Ask this rep. to support any motions to the effect of getting Wolves off the endangered list and opening seasons on them. I know that it will be brought up because I've got personal assurances that it will.
If we get SCI's lawyer and money involved we may stand a chance on this pest.
01-09-2007 | 11:49 AM
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RE: I've changed me mind about wolves!!
ORIGINAL: ShatoDavis
Listen I'm sick and tired of all the belly aching!
A couple of weeks ago I give you guys an idea on how to have your voice heard. Did any of you listen/ follow my advice? I'm guessing not. For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about:
Join SCI that stands for Safari Club International. they are a very large and very wealthy organization that has the resources needed to fight this battle. They have EXTREMELY SKILLED LAWYERS on staff.
Now once you've joined SCI, talk to the representative who will be going to the national convention in Reno in a few weeks. Ask this rep. to support any motions to the effect of getting Wolves off the endangered list and opening seasons on them. I know that it will be brought up because I've got personal assurances that it will.
If we get SCI's lawyer and money involved we may stand a chance on this pest.
Listen I'm sick and tired of all the belly aching!
A couple of weeks ago I give you guys an idea on how to have your voice heard. Did any of you listen/ follow my advice? I'm guessing not. For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about:
Join SCI that stands for Safari Club International. they are a very large and very wealthy organization that has the resources needed to fight this battle. They have EXTREMELY SKILLED LAWYERS on staff.
Now once you've joined SCI, talk to the representative who will be going to the national convention in Reno in a few weeks. Ask this rep. to support any motions to the effect of getting Wolves off the endangered list and opening seasons on them. I know that it will be brought up because I've got personal assurances that it will.
If we get SCI's lawyer and money involved we may stand a chance on this pest.
Where do i sign?
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