side arm for bear hunting????
06-21-2006 | 07:38 PM
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RE: side arm for bear hunting????
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I also carry bear spray which has been proven to be more effective than a pistol. . . . . . most often your not going to have a chance to make a lethal shot and stop a charging bear with its adredilian flowing and it has one thing in mindand that is to eliminate the threat. It happens so fast, your not going to have a chance to make a rational decision and in that split moment its on top of you.
Bobby
I also carry bear spray which has been proven to be more effective than a pistol. . . . . . most often your not going to have a chance to make a lethal shot and stop a charging bear with its adredilian flowing and it has one thing in mindand that is to eliminate the threat. It happens so fast, your not going to have a chance to make a rational decision and in that split moment its on top of you.
Bobby
06-22-2006 | 02:59 AM
#32
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RE: side arm for bear hunting????
I don't understand why you think deploying gas would require less skill/effort under pressure than a handgun. I have received training for the carry of both handguns and gas. For every variable that you can point to that makes upthe act of deploying a handgun, there is a similar component with bringing bear spray to bear (pun intended). With both, you must:
[ul][*]Decideto draw the device.[*]Competently clear the holster.[*]Accurately aim the device.[*]Decideto fire.[*]Competently trigger the device.[*]Follow up[/ul]
I would suspect most people train significantly more on the above elements with a handgun than with a can of pepper spray.
Granted, bear spray has a broad pattern,making aiming the unit a little easier, but is only effectivesprayed into the face.Anywhere else will be completely ineffective.
A pistol round can be effective in either a head or torso shot. It also has the side benefit of a bright flash and loud report that may dissuade an attack.
My point is not to look to bear spray as a talisman that can be clipped on your belt and taken for granted. Whichever you choose, make sure you are competent with it.
-- FLIX
[ul][*]Decideto draw the device.[*]Competently clear the holster.[*]Accurately aim the device.[*]Decideto fire.[*]Competently trigger the device.[*]Follow up[/ul]
I would suspect most people train significantly more on the above elements with a handgun than with a can of pepper spray.
Granted, bear spray has a broad pattern,making aiming the unit a little easier, but is only effectivesprayed into the face.Anywhere else will be completely ineffective.
A pistol round can be effective in either a head or torso shot. It also has the side benefit of a bright flash and loud report that may dissuade an attack.
My point is not to look to bear spray as a talisman that can be clipped on your belt and taken for granted. Whichever you choose, make sure you are competent with it.
-- FLIX
06-22-2006 | 09:58 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: side arm for bear hunting????
Well said Flix.
By the way guys it is leagle here in Montana to carry a side arm during the bow season as long as you don't finish the animal with it,but law has nothing to do with it.
BBJ
By the way guys it is leagle here in Montana to carry a side arm during the bow season as long as you don't finish the animal with it,but law has nothing to do with it.
BBJ
06-22-2006 | 11:36 AM
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RE: side arm for bear hunting????
[ul][*]Decideto draw the device.[*]Competently clear the holster.[*]Accurately aim the device.[*]Decideto fire.[*]Competently trigger the device.[*]Follow up[/ul]
06-22-2006 | 04:19 PM
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RE: side arm for bear hunting????
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while the rare hunter gets mauled by a wounded brown or grizzly bear, I can't find a single example of a wounded blackbear ever harming a hunter.
while the rare hunter gets mauled by a wounded brown or grizzly bear, I can't find a single example of a wounded blackbear ever harming a hunter.
06-22-2006 | 06:15 PM
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From: Montana
RE: side arm for bear hunting????
ORIGINAL: Flix
I would suspect most people train significantly more on the above elements with a handgun than with a can of pepper spray.
Granted, bear spray has a broad pattern,making aiming the unit a little easier, but is only effectivesprayed into the face.Anywhere else will be completely ineffective.
A pistol round can be effective in either a head or torso shot. It also has the side benefit of a bright flash and loud report that may dissuade an attack.
-- FLIX
I would suspect most people train significantly more on the above elements with a handgun than with a can of pepper spray.
Granted, bear spray has a broad pattern,making aiming the unit a little easier, but is only effectivesprayed into the face.Anywhere else will be completely ineffective.
A pistol round can be effective in either a head or torso shot. It also has the side benefit of a bright flash and loud report that may dissuade an attack.
-- FLIX
I have twice killed bearswith a 300 mag, and both times took more than one shot. I can't imagine my chances being very good to do immediate harm to a pissed off bear with my first shot. Again, my advice comes from a guy who is very good with his .45 and has had bear encounters with spray.
I guess it doesn't much matter - you take your gun and I will take my spray and I hope we both do well in case of an attack.
Good advice you have on not taking the spray for granted. I will be careful not to expect it to be that easy.
06-22-2006 | 09:08 PM
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RE: side arm for bear hunting????
What happens when the wind is blowing hard and/or the spray blows you in the face or away from the bears' face. I'll stick with my .480 Ruger Alaskan. The wind won't blow a bullet in my face.
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