deer meadow outfitters
11-17-2013, 06:30 AM
#21
Typical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Buffalo, WY
Posts: 992
Believe it or not, this type of thing is pretty common in TX. There is very, very little public land for hunting in TX, so people either have to own the land outright, pay for a lease, or go with outfitters. On many places, they are extremely protective of their big deer. They want you to take "management" bucks and does and leave the bigger bucks for wealthy hunters or to let them breed until they begin to decline.
I remember reading an article a couple of years ago where a guy refused to abide by the "ranch rules" and shot a monster. The land owner filed a lawsuit and won in court. The court said that despite the fact that the state had issued a license, the land owner had the right to dictate what he would allow to be shot on his private property. Just proves tha hunting in TX is a vastly different beast than hunting in your Wy or my CO.
I remember reading an article a couple of years ago where a guy refused to abide by the "ranch rules" and shot a monster. The land owner filed a lawsuit and won in court. The court said that despite the fact that the state had issued a license, the land owner had the right to dictate what he would allow to be shot on his private property. Just proves tha hunting in TX is a vastly different beast than hunting in your Wy or my CO.
11-17-2013, 09:23 AM
#22
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,230
Other than that, I'll take my chances on my own. If I take game I'll do it my way. If I don't take game, it will be under the same circumstances. But, to each his own.
Last edited by flags; 11-17-2013 at 09:28 AM.
11-17-2013, 09:50 AM
#23
Typical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Buffalo, WY
Posts: 992
Yeah, the guide requirement thing has a number of absurd components to it. WY requires a guide to hunt wilderness areas if you are a nonresident. As a resident I can easily get a permit to guide a nonresident friend on wilderness areas but I can't charge for it unless I am a licensed guide/outfitter.
A good friend of mine moved to ND a few years ago from WY to take a job. He lived his whole life here and knows the wilderness areas as well as anyone but his residency is now ND so he can't hunt wilderness areas here without a guide.
Whatever.......
A good friend of mine moved to ND a few years ago from WY to take a job. He lived his whole life here and knows the wilderness areas as well as anyone but his residency is now ND so he can't hunt wilderness areas here without a guide.
Whatever.......
11-17-2013, 11:06 PM
#24
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,230
Yeah, the guide requirement thing has a number of absurd components to it. WY requires a guide to hunt wilderness areas if you are a nonresident. As a resident I can easily get a permit to guide a nonresident friend on wilderness areas but I can't charge for it unless I am a licensed guide/outfitter.
A good friend of mine moved to ND a few years ago from WY to take a job. He lived his whole life here and knows the wilderness areas as well as anyone but his residency is now ND so he can't hunt wilderness areas here without a guide.
Whatever.......
A good friend of mine moved to ND a few years ago from WY to take a job. He lived his whole life here and knows the wilderness areas as well as anyone but his residency is now ND so he can't hunt wilderness areas here without a guide.
Whatever.......
I'd love to hunt Alaska but the things I want (grizzly/brown bear, muskox and Dall Sheep) would require a guide. You can do moose, caribou, black bear and Sitka Blacktail without a guide but not the things I'm interested in.
11-18-2013, 03:55 AM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kerrville, Tx. USA
Posts: 2,722
But chances are, the guy in Texas knew he was supposed to shoot a "management" deer going in (for a lesser price) and got buck fever when the "big-un" walked out. Probably why he lost. That said, I don't agree with allowing land owners to charge "by the inch" on a publicly owned deer. That means it is not hunting, but grocery shopping.
As an interesting sidenote, all deer in Texas (even pen raised deer) are publicly owned. The people who raise deer had a "breeders" license to breed and "sell" them. However the deer have to be "released from captivity" before they can be shot.
Kind of hard to "pull the trigger" on an archery buck if your guide waves his arms
As an interesting sidenote, all deer in Texas (even pen raised deer) are publicly owned. The people who raise deer had a "breeders" license to breed and "sell" them. However the deer have to be "released from captivity" before they can be shot.
Kind of hard to "pull the trigger" on an archery buck if your guide waves his arms
11-18-2013, 05:37 AM
#26
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,230
I merely used it as an example that guides refusing to allow clients to shoot a particular deer really isn't something new or rare.
11-18-2013, 07:26 AM
#28
Typical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Buffalo, WY
Posts: 992
............... Or so I've heard
11-18-2013, 07:37 AM
#29
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,230
So, for me it was to experience something a little different and to spend time with a pretty good buddy. But, I would never pony up the $$$ they want to hunt trophy whitetails or mulies in TX. You get into some real serious cash when you do that. The hunt I went on was fun, but it isn't something I'd want to do a lot of. But, to each his own. Some guys get really into that sort of thing.