Huge bear from Alaska
01-02-2002 | 05:43 PM
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From: egypt
RE: Huge bear from Alaska
well crapola, they had some awesome stuff in that mag! not my first choice BGA that is but a dang fine read by any standards! Sports Afield eh? now your competeing against those 15ft surf boards and the extreme mt bikers LOL!
01-02-2002 | 07:43 PM
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From: NJ USA
RE: Huge bear from Alaska
LOL. Okay guy's, so I'm a little behind. As you can tell, I don't spend too much time on the internet. My brother sent me the pictures the day I posted it, so I guess they are making thier way around pretty good. He doesn't even hunt, or talk with many people who do, so for him to get the pics, they must be getting pretty wide exposure.
Speaking of a fake, ..was that Mitch Rompola in the background, or just a funny looking tree?
Speaking of a fake, ..was that Mitch Rompola in the background, or just a funny looking tree?
01-03-2002 | 05:09 AM
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From: Los Angeles CA USA
RE: Huge bear from Alaska
dalliwacker.....never said i was an expert. And no, I didn't have the picture in front of me while I was typing up my 2 cents worth. I saw the picture at work and knew when I saw this forum, exactly what picture the author was refering too. Then a friend of mine passed it along to me with more typical internet B/S.
I don't know about Alaska news media, but here in southern CA, if a person kills a let's say for example an 800lb bear, it hits the news.
My question is this:
1) why didn't the news media (any network), including outdoorlife channel and the outdoor channel, FOX, TNN, CNN, heck even AM radio etc... mention this "WORLD RECORD" bear????
2) Who is this guy "Ted"???? When Chuck Adams took a giant world class elk, it was broadcast all over the "hunting community" media outlets and VERIFIED as well. Not to mention, local L.A. radio news mentioned it, which is definately outside the hunting media outlets. WAY outside. He took a large elk and the media talked about it. With a giant alleged bear weighing 1600lbs, I know we would have heard about it! That's a monstor bear for heaven's sake!
Haven't heard about this "Ted" guy and his 1600lb bear at all.
Dalliwacker, since you yourself are claiming to be a computer photo enhancement expert too, how do you know what kind of computer software was used to doctor the WTC photos? And how do we know this "Ted's Bear picture" was just a photograph as you claimed, that was scanned and NOT "doctored" via computer?
Any photo can be scanned to disk/computer, then easily "doctored" up as well, once the image is transformed to a computer.
I'd be willing to bet that an actual bear was taken. I'll give you that. Probably a really big bear as well. But I don't believe the size as reported (on the internet) is correct. It's probably exagerated by several hundred pounds. Yeah, I guess anything is possible, but I doubt it.
Also Dalliwacker, i agree with you in that "Ted" is at the rear of the bear's rump. Way back at the bear's rump. If the camera man gets really close to the bear's head, it's (bear's head) going to take up a lot of "space" in that particular photograph, while "Ted" is back by the rump of the bear looking really really small. The end result is a bear that looks like it's "1600lbs" (as quoted originally) compared to the average sized man next to the bear.
Now, I'm not ashamed to say "I was wrong" and to appologize. I've done it before and it takes a man to admit when he's wrong. I'll do it again if I see, perhaps a respectable hunting magazine or something actually publish this story and VERIFY the truth to this hunting tale. Like an independant news source. Not someone who claims to "have been there on the hunt."
Unfortunately the internet is made up of about 50% liars and 50% confused & misguided good intentioned story tellers.
Right now, my "B/S" meter is just registering on "high". If I'm wrong, then so be it. It just looks like another one of grandpa's hunting tales.
I don't know about Alaska news media, but here in southern CA, if a person kills a let's say for example an 800lb bear, it hits the news.
My question is this:
1) why didn't the news media (any network), including outdoorlife channel and the outdoor channel, FOX, TNN, CNN, heck even AM radio etc... mention this "WORLD RECORD" bear????
2) Who is this guy "Ted"???? When Chuck Adams took a giant world class elk, it was broadcast all over the "hunting community" media outlets and VERIFIED as well. Not to mention, local L.A. radio news mentioned it, which is definately outside the hunting media outlets. WAY outside. He took a large elk and the media talked about it. With a giant alleged bear weighing 1600lbs, I know we would have heard about it! That's a monstor bear for heaven's sake!
Haven't heard about this "Ted" guy and his 1600lb bear at all.
Dalliwacker, since you yourself are claiming to be a computer photo enhancement expert too, how do you know what kind of computer software was used to doctor the WTC photos? And how do we know this "Ted's Bear picture" was just a photograph as you claimed, that was scanned and NOT "doctored" via computer?
Any photo can be scanned to disk/computer, then easily "doctored" up as well, once the image is transformed to a computer.
I'd be willing to bet that an actual bear was taken. I'll give you that. Probably a really big bear as well. But I don't believe the size as reported (on the internet) is correct. It's probably exagerated by several hundred pounds. Yeah, I guess anything is possible, but I doubt it.
Also Dalliwacker, i agree with you in that "Ted" is at the rear of the bear's rump. Way back at the bear's rump. If the camera man gets really close to the bear's head, it's (bear's head) going to take up a lot of "space" in that particular photograph, while "Ted" is back by the rump of the bear looking really really small. The end result is a bear that looks like it's "1600lbs" (as quoted originally) compared to the average sized man next to the bear.
Now, I'm not ashamed to say "I was wrong" and to appologize. I've done it before and it takes a man to admit when he's wrong. I'll do it again if I see, perhaps a respectable hunting magazine or something actually publish this story and VERIFY the truth to this hunting tale. Like an independant news source. Not someone who claims to "have been there on the hunt."
Unfortunately the internet is made up of about 50% liars and 50% confused & misguided good intentioned story tellers.
Right now, my "B/S" meter is just registering on "high". If I'm wrong, then so be it. It just looks like another one of grandpa's hunting tales.
01-03-2002 | 05:59 AM
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From: Fairbanks AK
RE: Huge bear from Alaska
HK
Boy that is a mouthful. If I was a gambling man, I'd say your probably right on the weight too. I don't think he is 1600 lbs either...my guess-timate between 1000-1200 lbs. How about that height though. Don't you think 12.6' is a bit excessive too? Wonder what his measurements really were?
Not sure why the bear wasn't in the media. I'll have to do some checking on the Internet and get back w/ you on that one. Oh and I don't think I ever heard the bear was a world record. I think your the first to mention that one to me.
I think Ted is one of the last Great American Bearmen, not sure though...just a guess. Last I heard there were only 2 or 3 left, I think the two brothers died a few years ago.
Your right, I really don't know what was used on the WTC photos, I was just taking a stab at it. Hey, you ever call one of the 1-900 numbers to get your fortune read? Thats what I am practicing to do. I think it would be big business. HHMMMMM, HHHHMMMMM, HHHHHMMMM, I see a man w/ a Minolta 400si SLR camera, black in color, wait, wait, it has a 35-70mm lense on the camera. Darn! There was a obstruction w/ my mental powers, I see nothing more.
Could you be more specific on "Way Back"? I'm thinking that if the bear was say less than 12.6', and judging by the other photos of the bear, the rear legs were positioned forward rather than stretched to the rear, then we could say the bear's rear might be 6 or 7 feet away from the camera. Are you saying Ted is even farther back from the camera than 6 or 7 feet? Just curious, because I've never been very good at judging distance.
Hey, you don't have to tell me about people making up stories. I know exactly what your saying my friend. BTW, you don't think I would lie to you...do you?
Oh, almost forgot, here is some literature for you....
http://209.165.153.5/FMPro?-db=revie...&id=2160&-find
There is some good reading at www.adn.com but you have to pay like $3 to read the story as there is a charge for the archives. Just punch in the words "Legend Brewin"
Here is a good on too, I just found this one. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/giantbear.htm
Well, I know some other boards that have posted topics on the bear too, but what I provided for links should keep you busy for a bit. Who knows, you might even get in on a suprise or two. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
PS. Please do me a favor and pass everything you learn on to your friend at B&C. I'd like to know what he thinks then.
Jim Urban
Edited by - dalliwacker on 01/03/2002 07:03:20
Boy that is a mouthful. If I was a gambling man, I'd say your probably right on the weight too. I don't think he is 1600 lbs either...my guess-timate between 1000-1200 lbs. How about that height though. Don't you think 12.6' is a bit excessive too? Wonder what his measurements really were?
Not sure why the bear wasn't in the media. I'll have to do some checking on the Internet and get back w/ you on that one. Oh and I don't think I ever heard the bear was a world record. I think your the first to mention that one to me.
I think Ted is one of the last Great American Bearmen, not sure though...just a guess. Last I heard there were only 2 or 3 left, I think the two brothers died a few years ago.
Your right, I really don't know what was used on the WTC photos, I was just taking a stab at it. Hey, you ever call one of the 1-900 numbers to get your fortune read? Thats what I am practicing to do. I think it would be big business. HHMMMMM, HHHHMMMMM, HHHHHMMMM, I see a man w/ a Minolta 400si SLR camera, black in color, wait, wait, it has a 35-70mm lense on the camera. Darn! There was a obstruction w/ my mental powers, I see nothing more.
Could you be more specific on "Way Back"? I'm thinking that if the bear was say less than 12.6', and judging by the other photos of the bear, the rear legs were positioned forward rather than stretched to the rear, then we could say the bear's rear might be 6 or 7 feet away from the camera. Are you saying Ted is even farther back from the camera than 6 or 7 feet? Just curious, because I've never been very good at judging distance.
Hey, you don't have to tell me about people making up stories. I know exactly what your saying my friend. BTW, you don't think I would lie to you...do you?
Oh, almost forgot, here is some literature for you....
http://209.165.153.5/FMPro?-db=revie...&id=2160&-find
There is some good reading at www.adn.com but you have to pay like $3 to read the story as there is a charge for the archives. Just punch in the words "Legend Brewin"
Here is a good on too, I just found this one. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/giantbear.htm
Well, I know some other boards that have posted topics on the bear too, but what I provided for links should keep you busy for a bit. Who knows, you might even get in on a suprise or two. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
PS. Please do me a favor and pass everything you learn on to your friend at B&C. I'd like to know what he thinks then.
Jim Urban
Edited by - dalliwacker on 01/03/2002 07:03:20
01-03-2002 | 06:54 AM
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From: Passin\'through>>>>------------> NJ USA
RE: Huge bear from Alaska
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01-03-2002 | 04:52 PM
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From: Ashley Ohio USA
RE: Huge bear from Alaska
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JJ
Don't go there. Oh nooo! I hear the footsteps...and I think its Blain. Now looky what you did.
Jim
Edited by - dalliwacker on 01/03/2002 08:00:06
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dalliwacker
congrats on the bear (ops hope I didnt let anything slip) this is getting funny .
and I have to second your opinion on blain .
let us know what rag buy's the storie so I can go out and buy it .I too printed the picts and took them to work today .
Im sure I reported it correctley after following your links that you left .
Mike
JJ
Don't go there. Oh nooo! I hear the footsteps...and I think its Blain. Now looky what you did.
Jim
Edited by - dalliwacker on 01/03/2002 08:00:06
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dalliwacker
congrats on the bear (ops hope I didnt let anything slip) this is getting funny .
and I have to second your opinion on blain .
let us know what rag buy's the storie so I can go out and buy it .I too printed the picts and took them to work today .
Im sure I reported it correctley after following your links that you left .
Mike