"First, I have to ask if it's necessary to "yell" in your posts? Surely you do realize that's what all caps or all bold type is meant to suggest?"
I didnt use all caps. Thats yelling or placing emphasis on words. I used bold to separate text posted by two users...myself and the quotes i replied to. My decision to do so as opposed to the quote feature. If it makes you feel better for our discussion i'll use the quote feature. Im not an unreasonable guy.
"Second, I notice that you have issues with WMI as the entity to conduct the audit."
Absolutely.
" I asked this of PAhick and I realize he said he was short on time and didnt answer but I'll also ask you too. who do you feel is better qualified?"
It wasnt my job to send out requests for bids. Of the few choices that were supposedly available. Id say none of them, including the one being used should have qualified. Thats no excuse to go with the one with the very most connections to pgc (which i believe was by design in the first place). A 100% biased audit is 100% worse than NO audit. We needed meaningful legislative actions, not a sham audit that will do nothing but rubber stamp the program and not even address the real issues.
"As for the link you provided, the ACSL has long ago set themselves apart from the rest of the states mainstream sportsmens groups."
First, let me say i have no affiliation to acsl, but do strongly respect their current views from all that ive read. As fare as "setting themselves apart" Actually they havent, they mirror the feelings of the huge majority of sportsmen today, and they happen to be one of if not the largest in the state if membership claims ive read are true. But i do find it interesting as to who you think are "pa's mainstream" sportsmens groups. LIke Penn Fed. The group that has a large faction of nonhunting "conservationists" within the membership. A political "yes man" group and nothing more. One whom continuously petitions pgc against hunter friendly changes & always has audubon Pa's signature alongside their own. Real "mainstream". lol.
"As I recall, ACSL was predicting the demise of the deer herd decades ago"
In that case, I guess that prediction was right on.
" and at least some of USP's initial leadership came form ACSL."
And how much of the leadership at penn fed initially came from Audubon and other enviro-extreme groups?
" at the very least they are an entity with a more deer or else agenda."
Mighty funny how these days theres a tiny minority who seem to think EVERYONE who doesnt support the deer plan to the "T" fits that description.
"Third, i notice that you seem to have been given some bad information. Pa does not endorse deer contraception. As a matter of fact, a recent statement from the PA Game Commision clearly suggests exactly the opposite. You can find it right on their website. "
I have found it "right on their website" and i dont give "bad information". They said they will support contraception and guidelines will be for "VIGOROUS REAL WORLD TESTING".
According to Shisslers little study, when asked, wildlife management across the country...the huge majority of state DID NOT support birth control, and had no plans of constructing "guidelines for use". Unlike Pa. Only goes to show how hunter unfriendly pgc has become. Though most didnt need to look into the birth control issue to know that.
But instead of reiterating, here is a post that should straighten things out for you.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/nort...h-control.html
Here is the exact pertinent quote from pgc:
"Given the unproven nature of these drugs to control or manage a free-ranging deer population, any Game Commission guidelines for their use will be designed to rigorously test this drug in real world circumstances."
Now, feel free to contact Other states agencies and see if they support "vigorous real world testing"...at all. I think you will be enlightened as to how liberal our pgc has become comparatively to "hunter friendly" states, especially when considering ALL the issues such as this + the extreme deer program + extreme unnatural level of biodiversity goals and very low opinion pgc has of hunters. All this points to the enviro-extremists at pgc desparately need to be cleansed from our agency.