God or not
#41
Wow, see what comes out when we just show a little respect? Some great things being said here.
huntingirl: Of course I'm proud of you. If for nothing else than for the fact that you will stand up for your own beliefs no matter who says what. I respect that, even if I don't agree all the time.
I see alot of myself in you. I believed much the same way when I was 18 or 19. Later on I realized that people who did the Lord's work were living blessed lives, while I was not and I resisted the word. Well, I was cast into what is called the "pit of affliction", nothing went right and many things went seriously wrong. I wanted to climb out of this pit of endless hardship and find out what God wanted me to do and live a blessed life. It took me a while to realize it but asking for nothing, doing Gods work and following his Word leads to great rewards in life.
I guess I shouldn't say I believe in evolution because I don't. But I do believe in science, and I've been to all of the Christian science seminars where they rip evolution and attempt to explain that creation is scientifically sound etc. Unfortunately, there are major holes in both arguments and both sides (evolution and creation) skew things to further their own agendas. The problem is that scientists are interested in the TRUTH and nothing more so we are caught in the middle of this giant debate. Unfortunately, many of those who would renounce evolution as a sin are not well educated in science. I wish more Christians would seek to understand and refute the theories they disagree with rather than just denouncing.
As often happens in the world, I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle which is why I believe the way I do. I understand the Bible, but I also understand that there are many stories in the Bible where metaphors are used to convey meaning and the teachings lie not in the literal sense. This is why I believe that God did indeed create the universe and all the laws that govern the universe. This galaxy, the planets, life, humans, what have you were all forseen by Him and events have unfolded (evolved) as He has ordained.
huntingirl: Of course I'm proud of you. If for nothing else than for the fact that you will stand up for your own beliefs no matter who says what. I respect that, even if I don't agree all the time.
I see alot of myself in you. I believed much the same way when I was 18 or 19. Later on I realized that people who did the Lord's work were living blessed lives, while I was not and I resisted the word. Well, I was cast into what is called the "pit of affliction", nothing went right and many things went seriously wrong. I wanted to climb out of this pit of endless hardship and find out what God wanted me to do and live a blessed life. It took me a while to realize it but asking for nothing, doing Gods work and following his Word leads to great rewards in life.
I guess I shouldn't say I believe in evolution because I don't. But I do believe in science, and I've been to all of the Christian science seminars where they rip evolution and attempt to explain that creation is scientifically sound etc. Unfortunately, there are major holes in both arguments and both sides (evolution and creation) skew things to further their own agendas. The problem is that scientists are interested in the TRUTH and nothing more so we are caught in the middle of this giant debate. Unfortunately, many of those who would renounce evolution as a sin are not well educated in science. I wish more Christians would seek to understand and refute the theories they disagree with rather than just denouncing.
As often happens in the world, I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle which is why I believe the way I do. I understand the Bible, but I also understand that there are many stories in the Bible where metaphors are used to convey meaning and the teachings lie not in the literal sense. This is why I believe that God did indeed create the universe and all the laws that govern the universe. This galaxy, the planets, life, humans, what have you were all forseen by Him and events have unfolded (evolved) as He has ordained.
#42
Well I'm not going to say if i believe or don't believe. I just see that people are either going to believe or not believe. I don't think less of anyone who doesn't any more then someone who does. I respect everyone's feelings towards the whole religion thing.
#44
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brutal-where was i forcing my views down someone else throat? cause i dont think i was. you talk about giving respect and such but yet from the start of this thread you have given me little.
huntingirl u sound like ur the one thats got the ego not me.
huntingirl u sound like ur the one thats got the ego not me.
#45
sheesh... skin, i wasn't saying YOU had an ego...
i was talking politics... but i won't discuss that with you. as for my ego... yeah... i guess i have one... wanna fight her?
(i am being sooooo good... this whole near death thing has made me so much better... ya'll don't understand... my blood is usually boiling by now but its just lukewarm
)
i was talking politics... but i won't discuss that with you. as for my ego... yeah... i guess i have one... wanna fight her?
(i am being sooooo good... this whole near death thing has made me so much better... ya'll don't understand... my blood is usually boiling by now but its just lukewarm
)
#46
i almost forgot... this whole battle thing is one of the reasons that i only poke my head in every now and then instead of all the time like i used to
don't take things so seriously... you'll get wrinkles...
don't take things so seriously... you'll get wrinkles...
#47
ORIGINAL: skins38
brutal-where was i forcing my views down someone else throat? cause i dont think i was. you talk about giving respect and such but yet from the start of this thread you have given me little.
huntingirl u sound like ur the one thats got the ego not me.
brutal-where was i forcing my views down someone else throat? cause i dont think i was. you talk about giving respect and such but yet from the start of this thread you have given me little.
huntingirl u sound like ur the one thats got the ego not me.
#48
ORIGINAL: huntingirl89
i almost forgot... this whole battle thing is one of the reasons that i only poke my head in every now and then instead of all the time like i used to
don't take things so seriously... you'll get wrinkles...
i almost forgot... this whole battle thing is one of the reasons that i only poke my head in every now and then instead of all the time like i used to
don't take things so seriously... you'll get wrinkles...
#49
ORIGINAL: skins38
Thats what you believe alright thats cool but no matter how much science you know or how much you study when it comes down to it there is a God. Im not going to get into the whole evolutions wrong argument but the pure and simple fact is no matter what you beleive there had to be a creator. Because no matter how much time you give you can not get something from nothing.
Thats what you believe alright thats cool but no matter how much science you know or how much you study when it comes down to it there is a God. Im not going to get into the whole evolutions wrong argument but the pure and simple fact is no matter what you beleive there had to be a creator. Because no matter how much time you give you can not get something from nothing.
I dont really want to debate on this issue anymore. Everyone has their own beliefs and arguing over it is not going to change anyone's. And starting this thread was just asking for trouble IMO.
This is my last post here.....



