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jake pretty pmuch took care of that for me lol tanks man. a rifle delivers enough hydrostatic shock that it ruptures vitla organs if you do hit that spot you probably wouldnt ever know it. unless you use some silly fmj bullet or somethin that doesnt expand. then you could risk just punhcin a hole straight through.
guys dont get me wrong, i would rather tuxck one behind the shoulder anyday but im just sayin, im not affriad to take head shots or running shots. which that confused some jerks on the other thread thinkin i was sayin i take head shots at runnning deer. not at all. on running game i shoot for body mass which is rib cage area. i can hold my own w/ a rifle but to say your so good you take head shots at running game.....im not sayin that at all. of course thats how those guys made it sound. i will say i have hit a few deer in the back of the neck and head when the shots were running straight away. anywyas, im gonna head out and do a little scouting i think today. i didnt have to work i guess some im changing my clothes as i type this. |
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ORIGINAL: skybuster20ga jake pretty pmuch took care of that for me lol tanks man. a rifle delivers enough hydrostatic shock that it ruptures vitla organs if you do hit that spot you probably wouldnt ever know it. unless you use some silly fmj bullet or somethin that doesnt expand. then you could risk just punhcin a hole straight through. guys dont get me wrong, i would rather tuxck one behind the shoulder anyday but im just sayin, im not affriad to take head shots or running shots. which that confused some jerks on the other thread thinkin i was sayin i take head shots at runnning deer. not at all. on running game i shoot for body mass which is rib cage area. i can hold my own w/ a rifle but to say your so good you take head shots at running game.....im not sayin that at all. of course thats how those guys made it sound. i will say i have hit a few deer in the back of the neck and head when the shots were running straight away. anywyas, im gonna head out and do a little scouting i think today. i didnt have to work i guess some im changing my clothes as i type this. And do you have any pictures? |
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My sisters ex used to make headshots on deer with the deuce-deuce all the time,,, everytime dropping the deer in its tracks. He bowhunts as well, and always made great shots with his bow. Though he one time shot a spike too high, and just caught the meat right over the deers vitals. No blood, no vitals, just hair.
I will agree that there is a lower margin of error for a vitals shot than a head shot, but we are all human, and error is a fact of everyday life. You'll have error whether its vitals or head. |
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ORIGINAL: Rory/MO ORIGINAL: skybuster20ga jake pretty pmuch took care of that for me lol tanks man. a rifle delivers enough hydrostatic shock that it ruptures vitla organs if you do hit that spot you probably wouldnt ever know it. unless you use some silly fmj bullet or somethin that doesnt expand. then you could risk just punhcin a hole straight through. guys dont get me wrong, i would rather tuxck one behind the shoulder anyday but im just sayin, im not affriad to take head shots or running shots. which that confused some jerks on the other thread thinkin i was sayin i take head shots at runnning deer. not at all. on running game i shoot for body mass which is rib cage area. i can hold my own w/ a rifle but to say your so good you take head shots at running game.....im not sayin that at all. of course thats how those guys made it sound. i will say i have hit a few deer in the back of the neck and head when the shots were running straight away. anywyas, im gonna head out and do a little scouting i think today. i didnt have to work i guess some im changing my clothes as i type this. And do you have any pictures? I took care of it for him rory, even with pictures for everyones enjoyment. Where all friends here right? we got each others backs. I think my explanation was more then enough. -Jake |
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Brandon, i know you have less deer density by you and smaller bag limits. But that should not be an excuse for piss poor shots. It should actually make you take better shots. If you confident with your ability to make head shots, that's your own call. I only know that i would not and the majority of other hunters would not as well. And that's is for a reason.
Also, James, just because your parents did it one way and its been done like that for generations doesn't make it right. Just my opinion. A Lot of stuff in that category is wrong and unsafe/outdated...but that's another argument. Like mentioned before, we all got each others backs and if Brandon nails a doe from 250 yardsin the skull at a dead run ill be 1st in line to congratulate him. |
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^^^ haha, that would be one heck of a shot.
-Jake |
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lol im not used to you guys calling me by name... What i was saying was mainly for Rory who knows i dont deer hunt, and found it odd that i was putting up such an arguement for a animal ive never shot before. What i was saying was i can see both sides, personally i would rather take a heart/lung shot then a head, but i dont think that head shots are as bad as you guys are trying to make them out to be
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ORIGINAL: Bocajnala ORIGINAL: Rory/MO ORIGINAL: skybuster20ga jake pretty pmuch took care of that for me lol tanks man. a rifle delivers enough hydrostatic shock that it ruptures vitla organs if you do hit that spot you probably wouldnt ever know it. unless you use some silly fmj bullet or somethin that doesnt expand. then you could risk just punhcin a hole straight through. guys dont get me wrong, i would rather tuxck one behind the shoulder anyday but im just sayin, im not affriad to take head shots or running shots. which that confused some jerks on the other thread thinkin i was sayin i take head shots at runnning deer. not at all. on running game i shoot for body mass which is rib cage area. i can hold my own w/ a rifle but to say your so good you take head shots at running game.....im not sayin that at all. of course thats how those guys made it sound. i will say i have hit a few deer in the back of the neck and head when the shots were running straight away. anywyas, im gonna head out and do a little scouting i think today. i didnt have to work i guess some im changing my clothes as i type this. And do you have any pictures? I took care of it for him rory, even with pictures for everyones enjoyment. Where all friends here right? we got each others backs. I think my explanation was more then enough. -Jake I just don't see the spot that you guys are talking about. Even with the pictures. |
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right below the lungs. and towards the rear of the deer from the heart. Like I said, not usually a problem with a rifle, but bow hunters hit that and lose deer sometimes. It is just a fleshy spot that wont do much if that is all you hit. Ill try and put an arrow on the picture or something if I know how....
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Ok boys, answer me this...
Which red blob would you rather shoot at?  ;) |
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 I couldnt get it to work with the other picture, it is a little bit more clear. I hit an 8 point there with a bow 2 years ago. A guy up the road got it about two weeks later, it went right through the lower chest cavity, hitting nothing. there is also one higher up, but I have no experience with that. so I won't comment cause I dont know whats true or not. -Jake |
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First off im pretty sure were talking guns here. And the spot your pointing out isnt int the lung/chest cavity area, its jus the bottom of the deer :eek:If we were talking head shot then you just highlighted the lower jaw lol.
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ORIGINAL: Siman08/OH Brandon, i know you have less deer density by you and smaller bag limits. But that should not be an excuse for piss poor shots. It should actually make you take better shots. If you confident with your ability to make head shots, that's your own call. I only know that i would not and the majority of other hunters would not as well. And that's is for a reason. Also, James, just because your parents did it one way and its been done like that for generations doesn't make it right. Just my opinion. A Lot of stuff in that category is wrong and unsafe/outdated...but that's another argument. Like mentioned before, we all got each others backs and if Brandon nails a doe from 250 yardsin the skull at a dead run ill be 1st in line to congratulate him. you guys know me, lol i am ver confident lol |
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:)
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If you shoot a deer in the face, it will most likely die. The deer you shot siman would've died soon had you not shot him; and yes,,, it sucks that the hunter who shot that deer made the deer suffer like that. But, theres been plenty of times where someone will make a gut shot or just a flat out bad shot on a deer, and it will live for a day or two,,,, and its worse when they push the deer trying to find it.
When a deer get shot in the face, even if you are a little off and say you shoot the deer in jaw,,, the shock from the bullet is close enough to the brain to do some damage. Neck shots work just as well as a head shot IMO. The deer will literally drown on its own blood if you make a shot to the windpipe/throat or the upper jaw (nose). |
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lol (question) where do you shoot ducks when they lite int yur dcys???!!!
(answer)..........in the face!! |
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that is in the chest cavity. it is inside the rib cage, that is chest cavity. And as for the "which red spot would you like to aim for" the big one obviously. but if the other is the shot presented I will take it.
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ORIGINAL: skybuster20ga lol (question) where do you shoot ducks when they lite int yur dcys???!!! (answer)..........in the face!! Shoot 'em in the face! |
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ORIGINAL: Bocajnala that is in the chest cavity. it is inside the rib cage, that is chest cavity. And as for the "which red spot would you like to aim for" the big one obviously. but if the other is the shot presented I will take it. and Sky, what does that have to do with deer? |
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ORIGINAL: huntnteen ORIGINAL: Bocajnala that is in the chest cavity. it is inside the rib cage, that is chest cavity. And as for the "which red spot would you like to aim for" the big one obviously. but if the other is the shot presented I will take it. and Sky, what does that have to do with deer? i also apologize for my key board goin to hell. some letters arent working. i thiunk its still under warentey (sp)? |
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come on sky, we all know you just cant type!
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guys theres really no reason to argue over this it was just a "once in a while shot" that i took just because it was getting dark and i didnt want to have to go find it if it had run besides the weeds are real tall.:D
Sorry this made such a big arguement:D |
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im not! i like conflict lol
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wow man, if you think this is an argument........;)
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