Last minute food plot gonna work??
08-02-2012, 05:32 PM
#1
Spike
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Last minute food plot gonna work??
Alright so heres the scoop. We are way behind this year and our property is an 1 1/2 hours away. We are hoping to either get down there in 3 weeks or labor day. We really want to do a food plot as the crops there are destroyed from the drought. But it hasnt even been brush hogged yet and we will be trying to do it all in one day. We had planted a plot there with turnips and brassicas 2 years ago but nothing last. This ground has never been cropped but it is really good soil. So can we brush hog and till and plant and get away with it?? obv we wont be getting top notch results as it needs lime,fert and roundup.
Or can we roundup after brush hogging and hour or two before tilling, or isnt this time enough to be any good??
Would it be beneficial to put fert down without lime?? We will be planting oats which weve had good success on our propertys around here.
Obv the plan would be to till and plant and pray, then next spring lime the heck out of it and then round up and work it up in advance to planiitng next year.
The total plots are about 1 1/2 acres. We have axcess to tractors,brush hogs,tills,and broadcasters but nothing to spray round up at this point.
Or can we roundup after brush hogging and hour or two before tilling, or isnt this time enough to be any good??
Would it be beneficial to put fert down without lime?? We will be planting oats which weve had good success on our propertys around here.
Obv the plan would be to till and plant and pray, then next spring lime the heck out of it and then round up and work it up in advance to planiitng next year.
The total plots are about 1 1/2 acres. We have axcess to tractors,brush hogs,tills,and broadcasters but nothing to spray round up at this point.
08-03-2012, 04:34 AM
#2
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Comance county, OK
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So can we brush hog and till and plant and get away with it??
We have a property 150 miles away where we plant 3-5 acres of food plots in one day.
Use a box blade with the teeth down to pull the roots out. Then disk and plant. Do not use Roundup. Lightly fertilize the oats and hope for rain at the right time. Good luck with your plots.
08-03-2012, 08:56 AM
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Delhi, NY (by way of Chenango Forks)
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where you located? Oats is generally a spring crop. I would think you'd be better off with winter rye - get production this fall/winter and then again next spring. Why not lime it now? Takes 6 months for it to be effective in soil (less if tilled in). Better off getting pH good before adding too much fert. Pretty sure an hour or 2 for roundup won't do anything - if you till, you'll like kill most weeds since they are likely summer annuals.
08-03-2012, 03:00 PM
#4
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: MN
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Oats can tolerate poor soil, would probably do OK without the lime if your pH > 5, and they do not need much fertilizer either. If you are in the north, I do agree that winter rye is a better option than oats for the reasons stated. Winter rye also requires little fertilizer and tolerates lower soil pH even better than oats.
Roundup needs at least 1 week to kill weeds, 2 weeks is better for perennial broadleaf plants.
Roundup needs at least 1 week to kill weeds, 2 weeks is better for perennial broadleaf plants.
08-04-2012, 07:40 PM
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Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Comance county, OK
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My plots are planted in three widely dispersed properties in OK. We do two plantings per year, iron clay peas in the spring and oats in late August to November-December. Each year we plant 12-15 acres of oats: Climate permitting 18-20 acres of oats will be planted this year. We plant plain old horse feed oats or Chilocco oats: They work very well for us.
i am not a farmer nor do i play one on TV. We never use glycophosphate or Round Up: We seldom have a weed problem. One property was limed a few years ago. None of the plots have been PH tested. We grow some outstanding plots when there is adquate rainfall.
Our oats are planted very thick right after a good rain, if possible. The old Okies call it "mudding in oats". Planting in wet soil gives the oats a very good start; the deer will be eating them 15 days to three weeks after planting. When oats are planted in ground where iron clay peas matured no fertilizer is used.
Good luck with your food plots.
i am not a farmer nor do i play one on TV. We never use glycophosphate or Round Up: We seldom have a weed problem. One property was limed a few years ago. None of the plots have been PH tested. We grow some outstanding plots when there is adquate rainfall.
Our oats are planted very thick right after a good rain, if possible. The old Okies call it "mudding in oats". Planting in wet soil gives the oats a very good start; the deer will be eating them 15 days to three weeks after planting. When oats are planted in ground where iron clay peas matured no fertilizer is used.
Good luck with your food plots.
08-05-2012, 02:27 PM
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Spike
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Thanks everyone for the replies. We have never used fert on any of our oat food plots in the past and they have turned out well. They were limed though so maybe that was the difference. The main reason we arent planning on liming when planting is time. We have 20 some treestands to prune, trails to brush hog, several new stands to hang and try to get these plots in and including drive time there and back in a day.
Plus we are only doing about half of the area this year that we want to do next year. So Were thinking just rip the ground up next spring and lime the whole area then and should be good to go by next fall.
Plus we are only doing about half of the area this year that we want to do next year. So Were thinking just rip the ground up next spring and lime the whole area then and should be good to go by next fall.
