imperial no plow
#2
RE: imperial no plow
Some on the board have used it - I have not. Its my understanding that its an annual plot, and that the ground really does need to be exposed to bare soil for it to do real well. Also the intructions recommend that you lime considerably, and fertilize up to 300 lbs/acre for good results, then it does well for 1 year.
I'll contend that if you lime and fertilize an overgrown field, or native brush, this much, and do not plant a thing - your results will be similar. If your going to do the work required to get a good plot, I'd go for a perrenial food plot that will last a few years.
I'll contend that if you lime and fertilize an overgrown field, or native brush, this much, and do not plant a thing - your results will be similar. If your going to do the work required to get a good plot, I'd go for a perrenial food plot that will last a few years.
#3
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Fayetteville AR USA
Posts: 21
RE: imperial no plow
Late Sept. this year, I planted a 1/4 acre of Imperial next to a 1/4 acre of Biologic Full Draw. I disced, limed, and fertilized each plot exactly the same. The Biolgic grew and is still growing like crazy. The Imperial barely came up at all. What did come up was very small leafed plants. The Biologic plants are huge and look like a patch of lettuce. This was my first experience with both products.
#5
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ferry Township, Michigan United States
Posts: 165
RE: imperial no plow
I planted three test plots. No plow, Imperial clover, and Alfa Rack. I disked, limed, and fertilized. Was glad I only did the test plots, all three were failures. Not to say that I did everything right but I tried and was disappointed.
The three acres of Ladino clover and alfalfa are doing great in the same area as the test plots. I got the seed from the local grain elevator. Am really surprised and happy it is doing so well now. We had very little rain this summer. The deer are keeping it mowed right down.
I agree with Farmhunter. Go for something that will last. That buck on the bag is putting a buck in somebodies pocket. I have found out that if you want a good food plot you will have to work for it. <img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle>
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The three acres of Ladino clover and alfalfa are doing great in the same area as the test plots. I got the seed from the local grain elevator. Am really surprised and happy it is doing so well now. We had very little rain this summer. The deer are keeping it mowed right down.
I agree with Farmhunter. Go for something that will last. That buck on the bag is putting a buck in somebodies pocket. I have found out that if you want a good food plot you will have to work for it. <img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle>
LIVE FREE OR DIE
#6
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Clarksburg Wv USA
Posts: 33
RE: imperial no plow
We planted both Biologic & Imperial Whitetail beside eachother. About 3/4 acre per plot. (planted 8-23-02)Followed directions to a tee. After 2 1/2 weeks Biologic had grown like crazy, Imperial Whitetail had come up but not very high.A friend told us to put a wire cage in the middle of the clover for a couple of weeks to see what would happen. Biologic was still grownig, Imperial Whitetail had filled in better than the 2 1/2 weeks prior to. The caged in area was about 4" tall. Bottom line was that the deer were eating the daylights out of the clover & really weren't bothering the Biologic.
#7
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Fayetteville AR USA
Posts: 21
RE: imperial no plow
farm hunter - Yes the deer are eating the Biologic like crazy. It keeps growing. I have 8 sq. feet fenced off in each plot, the Imperial and the Biologic. The Imperical has barely come up with little tiny plants. Not yet seen a deer standing in that plot. Right next to it, the Biologic has deer in it every evening and some mornings. The fenced areas tell the tale. The deer are mowing down the Biologic pretty good, but the fenced area has huge plants in it. The fenced area of the Imperial looks the same as the rest of the plot, tiny plants. It's nice and green but nothing like the Biologic. Also, the Biologic plants started sprouting 3 days after they were put in the ground. I watered both plots allot the first few days after planting and then some good rains came. I have been very impressed with the Full Draw and will plant much more of it next season.
On a side note, I tossed about two cups full of the Biologic behind one of my pond levees, no soil prep, just sprinkled 10-10-10 fert. on top - the ground is very hard and somewhat rocky back there - it has come up as well - nothing like the main plot, but it is growing pretty good. FYI
On a side note, I tossed about two cups full of the Biologic behind one of my pond levees, no soil prep, just sprinkled 10-10-10 fert. on top - the ground is very hard and somewhat rocky back there - it has come up as well - nothing like the main plot, but it is growing pretty good. FYI
#8
RE: imperial no plow
Interesting comments. Has anyone tried Nature's Own "Grazin Trophy Buck Mixture"? Curious how this stands up next to Bio Logic and Imperial Clover?
I'm putting together a habitat package for local NWTF members and want to include some seed. Any suggestions for the cold northeast?
. . . Rob
I'm putting together a habitat package for local NWTF members and want to include some seed. Any suggestions for the cold northeast?
. . . Rob
#10
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Fayetteville AR USA
Posts: 21
RE: imperial no plow
lunchbucket - yes, all of the above. I pretty much followed the directions to a tee, and I have a ph meter. Acidity level is just right. Fertilized per the suggestions on the Imperial bag. I burned off the existing grasses/vegetation (I don't like messing with chemicals), I disced the soil, disced in the fertilizer, broadcast the seed, pulled my homemade drag over it, and watered it for the first several days, then came the rain. Same procedure with the Biologic plot 10 feet away. Biologic came up great and is still growing even with mod./heavy grazing pressure. Imperial hasn't done much. I am located in NW Arkansas and I planted in late Sept. FYI