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are you also against what happens at kfc,mcdonalds slaughter houses ? or do they dothat for all animals

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I perceive that you and others here are fairly young (I'm not that old) and very enthusiatic about hunting and your beliefs--which is awesome

However, you are going to have to walk a very thin line with something like this

(ex. What about native alaskan inuyet hunters that club seals as a means of gathering a food source?)

I'm not saying it can't be done

and I think it's great that you have kind of ran with the ball here, but you might want to step back and really research as to what you (as an individual or part of group) can do do be most effective at preserving your right to hunt--perhaps (just spitballing here) it would be to initiate many letter writing campaigns to legislators, or becoming involved with a well established pro-hunting group--I don't know--that's for you to decide

I think that most people realize that hunters aren't for torturing animals. I also believe (my opinion) that your take off on the org name of PETA to form HETA might seem like a direct stab at them (I'd like nothing better), but in the long run it may actually seem like we give legitimacy to their org or might actually cause confusion between the two

As for the mission statement--it is not an advertisement, so you don't have to say things like "fastest growing"---It should really start something like---"we believe that______________therefore we strive to____________________" and shouldn't be negative like "we believe cruelty is wrong" it should all be positive

sorry so long,
I hoped I helped:)
hb

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I have been and am a proud member of PETA.
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

LOL;)

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Sniper,
i read over both of the sites (i strongly suggest all of you do also) you posted and i have never been so disqusted. i went to the sites not expecting much, but man, was i wrong. i have never read anything so biased. i mean, how can they say that and actually think they're right? this is why we need something like this, just to show non and anti-hunters what we are about, what we represent, and how we agree that animals are being mistreated.

however, i also agree with SteveBNy and hillybillyhunter. you need to be very careful with what you are doing. also, i am a bit worried about the PETA, HETA thing. the two are very close and the general public, if not aware what HETA means, will be mislead and think of it as another extremits group/organization. so all in all, remember to be careful.

good luck!

P.S- i never would have thought of contacting Buckmasters. great job mooshorn.

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I think you should search around other websites for sponsors to sponsor your page, and have a link or something so that people can see who it's sponsored by to make it more professional. In cluded in th website, there should be articles about how hunting is needed to save plants from deer eatting them all and destroying all the vegetation.

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Lets get it started, I would be happy to help in any way, I also can host pictures/ make a website, as i have my own website up and going with a .tk url. www.illinoiswhitetails.tk , if i could be of any help, let me know , i also can make a banner for the webpage, and get forums and everything of the sort for free.

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hillbillyhunter1, I'll be 32 in June, I've been hunting sense I was around 7-8 years old.. I've been around a day or two! lol We are still getting things organized & trying to come up with a different/better name than HETA. I think it might cause some problems down the road with "other" groups!
Some people are worried about what we are trying to accomplish & how we are going to go about doing it w/o offending one side or the other. Well, we are doing our research & are walking very lightly at the moment! We need all the help & support that we can get! Something has to be done to help protect our sport!

-DeerSlayer-, "If i could be of any help, let me know."
I'll send you an e-mail & let you know, I'm still trying to get the word out!
Thanks, Phil B.

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Could something Like HETA work? I think what it will really boil down to is what everyones definition of cruelty is. Animal cruelty is what we and they are against but our definitions of cruelty are different! I as a hunter and meat eater don't think hunting or slaughter houses are cruel. Taking game or raising animals for food is just a part of life! Living things must die so others can live! Thats natures way. Protecting your home and property against animals isn't cruel either in my mind. Killing mice, rats, groundhogs, squirrels, raccoons, bees, flies, termites, mosquitos, bears or what ever is invading your property isn't being cruel. It's making your quality of life better and safer! Any of these things in my mind are not animal cruelty! In the minds of the anti's these things are murder!
I think both groups would agree that an animal owner who beats or starves or doesn't take proper care of thier animal(s) is cruel. Poachers and people who kill things just for the sake of killing are cruel and should be punished! We have a lot of common goals we can go after to stop cruelty to animals. We will also have a lot of ground that we don't agree on such as hunting and food production!(meat).
There will be grey areas as well like drug testing on animals. Entertainment with animals (circuses, zoos, dog and horse racing ect ect..)Some think these things are cruel and others don't.
The one good thing that can come out of a group like HETA is people would see hunters looking to help animals that have nothing to do with hunting. They wouldn't be able to say we are protecting them so we can hunt them next year like the anti's say about game animals! It would show that just because we kill animals for our dinner tables it doesn't mean we go home and kick our dog every night! We are not being cruel we are just being a part of natures life cycle by eating the animals Mother nature has put here for us! Done right HETA could be a very positive thing for hunters in the eyes of the non-hunter non-anti!
Just my .02

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You may be able to get some help from game calls and other companys like that too, like primos. They are from here and seem like really nice guys, you may be able to e mail em and they might be able to get you off to a good start.

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Is anybody here aware of what Wildlife Forever does. They are part of the N.A.H.C. and their mission statement is as follows

If your going to start a new club I think these basic ideas would be a good starting point.

I urge you to visit their website at www.wildlifeforever.org.