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does your state require you to display a number on your back for hunting? :eek: in minn. we dont but i sure am glad wisconsin had it , thats how they caught chi vang, are you for or against this?
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no numbers # MN. MS. OH. ILL. NEV. VA. Albert Can. OK. TX. KY. IN.

numbers required-- NJ. NY. WISC. PA.
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ms. don't but i think it would be alright.

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In NY we do. When I lived and hunted in CO we didn't. It is no biggie to me either way.

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I'm all for it!!!!!!!!!! It caught the Vang character, imagine if Wi didn't have the back tag?? Then what would be going on in this case???? I couldn't imagine!

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Jersey does and I don't mind. But someday I'll get stopped for not having it in plain view if I'm carrying my stand to or from my tree.[:'(] If that happens I may give up hunting. (in Jersey)[:'(][&o][>:][:@] or if I wear it on my back and when I get to my stand put on another jacket that I cary in. All I can say is TS.

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Don't have it and it isn't necessary.One incident like the Vang case is not enough reason to implement such a system.Sort of like saying registering all guns is a good idea because it helped solve one crime.

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In Ohio we used to but now don't and glad . I lost my license 1 time when the pouch came off rabbit hunting , and can't remember how many times I forgot to move it from my small game bag or duck hunting coat to my camo for bow hunting. Also the pouch made noise when rubed against a tree , always at the worst times.

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I like it! Here in Jersey you find a lot of people straying off thier property and on to yours! When you can see there # it gives you something to report to the proper authorities! If you hunting legal why would it bother you?

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Hey JerseyJim you read my mind, well spoke it anyway!;):D

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In NY, we have to, but it doesn't bother me. I never really thought about it. But the downside is, someone getting your numbers and reporting a false report.[:@] It happens.

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we used to have to wear them on our backs in illinois but we dont anymore.

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:) thanks keep the comments coming



? what if your number was permanant so you would not have to have it changed from on hunting apperal to the next and the possibility of losing as some have stated. -- just a ? i have no opinion on this yet- but i would think it would glare or the only color that would show against the orange would be white-and thats not cool[:'(] when your whitetailin it
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Ok, so, let me get this straight.

You have to apply for a permit to purchase firearms which are guarenteed to you by the United States Constitution, then you have to wait an additional 3 days to get a firearm, after you have already been deemed fit to own said firearm, then you have to run around the woods in orange clothes, and have a number attached to your back? Is it just me, or do these descritptions sound more and more like the states are treating law-abiding citizens like convicts? Sorry, but it just doesn't make any sense to me.

BTW, I know a lot of states don't require, these numbers, or the wait, or blaze orange, or the ID card, but I am sure there are some that meet all 4 criteria.

Well, not to insult any other states, but NO, we do not have to wear our lic #'s on our backs, nor do we have to wear orange, apply for a permit to own a firearm, or wait 3 days to get it (unless the computers are down). And just for those who ask, the hunter accident rate in Nevada is very low, only 2 last year and 0 (zero) in 2002. This is Nevada by the way.

I just can't believe how other states treat people, sounds more like a communist government than anything to me[:@]

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Pa. wears them

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Don't have to in VA and don't want to. I agree that one incident shouldn't decide whether or not we should have them.

VA is getting to be a great place to hunt. You can now buy your license online...call in to a 1-800 number to check your deer rather than go to a check station...and each year the harvest limits go up it seems. No to the numbers.

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I thought while trying to get away from him they saw his vehicle and wrote down his licence plate #?

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As Cardeer said in PA we have to wear them, and if you have a doe tag then you need to have both the license and doe tag visible at all times. I hardly believe that any one could read the number unless they were awfully close.

Doesn't bother me to wear it. It's the way its always been for me.

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I've been deer hunting Wisconsin for the last 36 years, we need to wear them on our back, I've never known any other way, so it really doesn't bother me.

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Mantis,

When early on in the contact with Mantis, one of the murdered hunters intended to report Vang's trespass to the police. He told others to write down Van's # from his back as he hollered it out. Another of the murdered hunters wrote it with his finger in the dust on one of the ATV's they were riding. When Vang later appeared from the woods with a couple of other hunters who helped him find his way out of the woods an officer recognized the number and took Vang into custody.

There is some speculation (actually quite a bit) that Vang knew that there was an active warrant out for his arrest for trespass while hunting a year or two earlier and wasn't intrested in being apprehended for it.

If, in fact, there was an active warrant out for Vang, what attempts were ever made to pick him up? From all accounts that I have read, it certainly doesn't seem he was living his life in hiding. He was an active member of his community, readily conducting his life in public. Why would WI issue permits to an individual who has an active warrant?

I would really like to hear what the other hunters who helped him find the way out have to say. What was his demeanor like? What did he say? Was he acting weird or suspisiously? How did they feel after they discovered or were told that this nut was a murderer?

I sincerely wish this incident had never happened and my prayers continue to be with those fellow hunters who were senselessly murdered and their families and friends.

If indeed this Vang fellow is guilty I hope they turn up the fires of hell just for his arrival.

Uncle Matt (in IL)

P.S. bwhunter 501 you are showing your age by your posting. LOL

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Waste of time. Never complied when it was required and now the law is changed that it's not required.

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Ohio doesn't require them, and I'm glad... those plastic holders give off a nasty glare sometimes...

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uncle matt -go to kare11.com - and type chi vang in search box to read comments by the hunter who gave him a ride out on his atv--in a nutshell he acted as if nothing was wrong- but surrenderd peacefully to authoritys
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to charley brown- thanks for the comments

reply to jersyhunter, if they hassle ya for something like that,thats just what it is- harrasing- in my book your wearing it, I also would be upset.--

what if they only put #s on out of state hunters, its not like your gonna leave the state and ya probably know your area and less likely to trespass
in the first place, i do realize the hunter population in your state is probably quite high and concentrated. so a need for them is clear but what about other states with less population-- wisc. for example. ??
and if you are hunting your own land why should you HAVE TO wear it?
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ptrbilt----- WHAT??you have to have the doe tag visible also????????? why?????
I suppose they make you put it on with a rubber band or string also so it flops around in the breeze in your face and makin noise. sounds like a politicans idea.. not a hunters

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None required in OK. Can't see any good that comes from it. Just another bothersome regulatory imposition which are too numerous already.
Griz

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I obviously wear mine proudly here in NJ because just getting past all of the paperwork so they issue the license is a feat more difficult than reaching your bag limit. In all seriousness though, I think that the biggest inconvenience is remerbering to move it from my different jackets/vests. Here in NJ it is just another rule/regulation/control that they have over us, but in theory, I don't think it has any negatives and only possible benefits (from an ID standpoint).

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We got em in Pa, and i hope it stays that way ;)

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Wearing the #'s doesnt bother me one bit.

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I'm from NY so I do have to wear a back tag. I usually carry a day pack while hunting so I just pin the tag to my pack. I don't know about the legality of doing this (probably a violation) but have never been hassled about it yet.
Before I started pinning the tag to my pack, I had the pack cause my back tag holder to fall off my jacket at least twice. I had to do some back tracking to find the tag.
I'd like to see them eliminated.

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Some complain about the back tag. Some don't! Like I said before I'm all for it! I'm sure the have been many times where this backtag number have been used that we NEVER would hear about, not just this ONE time(Vang's case)! This is the ONE time you heard about it becase of the tremendous loss of life! I also don't see the numbers, or any, very high on a lost chance at a deer due to the glare, noise or any thing else a BACKTAG might cause!:D I feel a bit safer knowing this is an opition! I forget its even there, so did VANG! What if Wisconsin did'nt have this mandatory backtag???? Then what? Could you imagine the hunting communtiy in Wi?? How many Hunters would of left the woods knowing this guy is still out there?
Next thing were going to hear about a backtag is that it's "fuel for the antis"!;) Gimme a break! Remember this is just my opinion!

Don't be parinoid there just regular headlights!

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This whole idea of numbers on the back will never fly in Texas. There are almost no public areas to hunt anyway.

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I dont know if anyone has touched on this yet and I'm not picking out the person who I quoted above because I've seen alot of negative comments.

I cant imagine NOT having a back tag! Our back tag number system has been the demise of countless poachers and especially tresspassers. It's a very usefull tool which aids the DNR who is very under staffed around here.
If you witness someone doing something illegal , jot down their back tag and report it. You catch someone tresspassing , avoid confrontation and jot down the back tag as they leave.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with the back tag system for a law abiding hunter.

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Lots of Germans saw nothing wrong with tagging Jews, either...After all, it was the law.
Vang would have been ID'd by the surviving witnesses, more than likely. Might have taken a bit longer.
I don't have to prove I'm "hunting legal" to anybody. If the government believes I am hunting unlawfully, it is up to THEM to prove it.

Tell, you what...you boys can keep your backtags. Won't fly in free states.

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OK heres the deal, NO FREEKING numbers, that Vang guy would have been dead if he shot at my buddys. So the Dept of F.S. can go pound sand

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Thats rich!
Can you give me one single example of how a deerhunting back tag system is infringing on anyones freedom?

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I'm in Indiana but I hunted and lived in WI for a few years.

I hate it.

It's a big part of the reason I quit hunting in WI and bought a out of state license to hunt back in Indiana until I could get out of there.

Criminals and convicts need numbers on their backs not hunters. Vang was already convicted of tresspass and wanted on outstanding warrants, if WI had enforced their laws as written maybe he would have had the number on his back he has now and and those people would still be alive.

The first year I lived there I was apalled at the drinking while shooting at trap clubs up there. The trap club actually sells beer at the same counter you paid up for your trap rounds. Next I found out after I'd bought and paid for the whole package of licenses that they wanted me to wear A WHITE TAG ON MY BACK while those same individuals drinking at the trap clubs were out there hunting what? WHITE TAIL DEER with centerfire rifles.

No thanks.

I like Indiana just fine.

One price, lifetime license the size of a credit card. Got it in your pocket, you are good to go. Anything in season with any legal weapon.

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'Eh, forgetting the 'back tag' at home and only realizing it once you get to your huntin' property, forgetting to transfer it to the garment you intend to wear that day according to the weather, losing it afield, pokin' holes in your expensive goretex, etc...no thanks.

Here's a tip, keep with you at all times a cell phone and all of the telephone numbers of the local authorities...heck, carry your GPS and give 'em the coordinates if it's that serious a situation.

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What year was that Jack?
I dont remember ever being issued a white tag in 30 years of deerhunting in Wisconsin.
I'm not familiar with trap shooting clubs but if they are serving alchohol before and during shooting , they should be shut down , it's illegal , intoxicated use of a firearm.

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Here in KY we do not have this law, but I would think that it might be useful in some cases.

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