How can you consider rifle hunting, true hunting?
04-05-2004, 08:20 PM
#21
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 330
RE: How can you consider rifle hunting, true hunting?
Legacy....this is just the crap that the anti-hunting community loves to see!! Drive a stake right down the middle of the hunting fraternity...not good :-(
I've shot good bucks with both bow and rifle, and love em both.
What was your point again???
I've shot good bucks with both bow and rifle, and love em both.
What was your point again???
04-05-2004, 08:27 PM
#22
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Inverness, MS
Posts: 3,982
RE: How can you consider rifle hunting, true hunting?
I no longer rifle hunt, but you must remember that not everyone takes their deer at 200yds. I've killed around 40 deer with a rifle and I would say the average shot was 30-50yds. You still have to put in the same effort to locate a buck, the stand set up is where things get much tougher with a bow.
I typically hunt really thick areas that if you see a deer it will be in bow range. BUT, not everyone hunts that way. Like someone else above stated, he hunts prairie land, no very conducive to bow hunting.
I typically hunt really thick areas that if you see a deer it will be in bow range. BUT, not everyone hunts that way. Like someone else above stated, he hunts prairie land, no very conducive to bow hunting.
04-05-2004, 08:36 PM
#23
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kerrville, Tx. USA
Posts: 2,722
RE: How can you consider rifle hunting, true hunting?
To answer the original question: Yes
You bowhunt and call yourself a hunter??? Did you build the bow? Did you make the arrowheads? I don't think you can call yourself a hunter unless you just jump on it and slit it's throat with a sharp rock/arrowhead.
As said well earlier, to each his own, there is no better or best. Nuff said.
You bowhunt and call yourself a hunter??? Did you build the bow? Did you make the arrowheads? I don't think you can call yourself a hunter unless you just jump on it and slit it's throat with a sharp rock/arrowhead.
As said well earlier, to each his own, there is no better or best. Nuff said.
04-05-2004, 08:45 PM
#24
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ontario,Canada
Posts: 2,107
RE: How can you consider rifle hunting, true hunting?
Good point whitetails
Now i really dont know what your problem is .Cant seem to figure out how rifle is easier then bow.Maybe you are the gods gift to hunting,the all superior deerhunter or just bragging about whatever,but in my neck of the wood is pretty thick,getting a deer within EASY shooting range with a gun or bow is still a feat in itself.Still have to be in the right spot at the right time.
Another point i would like to make is some people have to work for a living ,giving them only 3-4 days in the field.If rifle hunting is a big advantage for that individual then by all means.
So im sorry your heinus,your almighty deerhunting genious for being a GUN hunter
P.S---I also love to hunt with my bow
Now i really dont know what your problem is .Cant seem to figure out how rifle is easier then bow.Maybe you are the gods gift to hunting,the all superior deerhunter or just bragging about whatever,but in my neck of the wood is pretty thick,getting a deer within EASY shooting range with a gun or bow is still a feat in itself.Still have to be in the right spot at the right time.
Another point i would like to make is some people have to work for a living ,giving them only 3-4 days in the field.If rifle hunting is a big advantage for that individual then by all means.
So im sorry your heinus,your almighty deerhunting genious for being a GUN hunter
P.S---I also love to hunt with my bow
04-05-2004, 08:53 PM
#25
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Raven Creek, PA
Posts: 304
RE: How can you consider rifle hunting, true hunting?
Huntin is huntin in my mind. I hunt with both a bow and a gun. Several types of guns as a matter of fact. I hunt archery season, muzzelloader season, rifle season, and sometimes I take my shotgun out to hunt with. Now I know I havent hunted very long (9years) but in the last 2 years Ive been getting more into bow hunting. I mean I can see what is being said about hunting with the rifle isnt that much fun, but thats my opinion. That is how I feel about hunting with my rifle anymore. I would much rather have that feeling after taking a deer at 15 yards after it came walking by not even knowing I was there.
Now Im not saying that hunting with the gun isnt hunting or it cant be fun or enjoyable. But Im just starting to find it more enjoyable to have my skills tested more, by takin the animal at 15 or 20 yards instead of 75 or 100 yards.
Would you not say someone is a hunter who hunts turkeys with a shotgun? or foxes with a rifle or shotgun? or any small game with a .22 or shotgun?........No I wouldnt say that at all.They are all hunters. Ive even thought of this year taking my bow out for turkey season, just for more of a challenge.
I guess I would just like to end this by sayin. Anyone who chases critters or game day after day year after year is a hunter in my book, no matter what weapon you use.
Now Im not saying that hunting with the gun isnt hunting or it cant be fun or enjoyable. But Im just starting to find it more enjoyable to have my skills tested more, by takin the animal at 15 or 20 yards instead of 75 or 100 yards.
Would you not say someone is a hunter who hunts turkeys with a shotgun? or foxes with a rifle or shotgun? or any small game with a .22 or shotgun?........No I wouldnt say that at all.They are all hunters. Ive even thought of this year taking my bow out for turkey season, just for more of a challenge.
I guess I would just like to end this by sayin. Anyone who chases critters or game day after day year after year is a hunter in my book, no matter what weapon you use.
04-05-2004, 10:10 PM
#26
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY! the middle part
Posts: 443
RE: How can you consider rifle hunting, true hunting?
Legacy357's antics and pot stiring are elitest and pathetic. How does your method of hunting give you the right to call anyone anything. It torques my hain to know people like you go to bed at night thinking they are better than other people. Its really a medical condition. You are making up for something.
04-06-2004, 04:43 AM
#28
Dominant Buck
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ramsey , Indiana
Posts: 22,545
RE: How can you consider rifle hunting, true hunting?
ORIGINAL: timbercruiser
Yeah, you're telling them..........I'm assuming you hunt with a 100% homemade bow and arrow, none of this store bought razor heads and compound bow crap...........Then again the only FAIR way to take a deer is to stand behind a tree, nekkid, unarmed, and jump on the deer's back when it passes by and break its neck.................
Yeah, you're telling them..........I'm assuming you hunt with a 100% homemade bow and arrow, none of this store bought razor heads and compound bow crap...........Then again the only FAIR way to take a deer is to stand behind a tree, nekkid, unarmed, and jump on the deer's back when it passes by and break its neck.................
Hunt with what makes you happy if it's legal , but don't look down on a method that accounts for the majority of the deer taken each year . Without rifle/shotgun hunters most states couldn't even begin to manage their herd effectively . Also , rifle hunting may happen at longer distances than a bow hunter can only dream of , but the same general skills are required to be successful at it . You still have to know your quarry and it's habits .
04-06-2004, 04:56 AM
#29
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Port Neches, Texas
Posts: 5,514
RE: How can you consider rifle hunting, true hunting?
Let us all bow down in reverence of "Legacy357!"
It ihas been my experience, that when one starts to cut down other hunters hunting methods, it is only an egomaniacal way of building themselves up to be some great hunter!
You said that you started hunting at age 15, didn't say how old you are, but you have shot 8 deer in the last four years. So, you are maybe what? 20, even if you are 30, many of us here have been hunting longer than you've been on this earth!
I personally hunt with both bow, and gun, and yes you do have to be close to make a shot with a bow, it does not mean you are any better than a gun hunter!
Length of shot, and size of antlers, do not a hunter make!
If you don't understand that, you would not understand if we wrote you a book, and if you still don't understand, you ain't much of a hunter either! At least not one that I'd care to share the woods or a deer camp with anyways!
It ihas been my experience, that when one starts to cut down other hunters hunting methods, it is only an egomaniacal way of building themselves up to be some great hunter!
You said that you started hunting at age 15, didn't say how old you are, but you have shot 8 deer in the last four years. So, you are maybe what? 20, even if you are 30, many of us here have been hunting longer than you've been on this earth!
I personally hunt with both bow, and gun, and yes you do have to be close to make a shot with a bow, it does not mean you are any better than a gun hunter!
Length of shot, and size of antlers, do not a hunter make!
If you don't understand that, you would not understand if we wrote you a book, and if you still don't understand, you ain't much of a hunter either! At least not one that I'd care to share the woods or a deer camp with anyways!
04-06-2004, 06:47 AM
#30
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sugar Grove NC USA
Posts: 322
RE: How can you consider rifle hunting, true hunting?
Legacy 357-
The day the government agrees with you about rifle hunting not being a sport, may be the day we lose our guns. If I was you, I would actually hope that many people disagreed with me or else you may have no choice but to hunt with your bow. As for me hunting over a feeder, like I said, 5 deer in 2 seasons on private land....I am not exactly slaughtering them and I hunt every chance I get. I guess if I let you on my land with a rifle the deer would be extinct within hours. What is your secret? I think there are plenty of less-successful rifle hunters on this forum who would love to know!
The day the government agrees with you about rifle hunting not being a sport, may be the day we lose our guns. If I was you, I would actually hope that many people disagreed with me or else you may have no choice but to hunt with your bow. As for me hunting over a feeder, like I said, 5 deer in 2 seasons on private land....I am not exactly slaughtering them and I hunt every chance I get. I guess if I let you on my land with a rifle the deer would be extinct within hours. What is your secret? I think there are plenty of less-successful rifle hunters on this forum who would love to know!