Hunting with an Outfitter
#11
IMB is a great marketing website but criminal when it comes to truly outfitting. Been twice with them and will NEVER do it again. Terrible service and don’t know anything about the properties they rent. Total cattle call. They bring as many hunters as they can, so the properties are over run constantly. Guides are taxi drivers. They don’t anything about the place. Became friends with a couple of them. They worked only one or two seasons and were sick to their stomach working for them.
#12
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,230
Dude, he asked what I thought of them. I answered. If you don't like my answer, deal with it. I've seen outfitters pretty much ruin a lot of public hunting areas in my native CO.
#14
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,230
Not at all. The OP clearly asked :"What are everyone's opinions on outfitters?"
I gave my answer to the OP and another member decided to take issue with my comment. I value neither his opinion nor yours in any way on this matter. I have no use for outfitters. Perhaps you do and that is fine. You answer your way and I'll answer my way.
Now, exactly what is the point in your post? What axe are trying to grind and how did your rather childish post address any of the points raised by the OP? Or are you just trying to cause trouble? Frankly other than this reply I have no time for you or people like you.
I gave my answer to the OP and another member decided to take issue with my comment. I value neither his opinion nor yours in any way on this matter. I have no use for outfitters. Perhaps you do and that is fine. You answer your way and I'll answer my way.
Now, exactly what is the point in your post? What axe are trying to grind and how did your rather childish post address any of the points raised by the OP? Or are you just trying to cause trouble? Frankly other than this reply I have no time for you or people like you.
#15
...and yet, you think your opinion is the only one that matters and throw a temper tantrum when anyone dares disagree. Such strong opinions on crap that doesn't matter and overall so angry. Take a midol and have a beer.
As for the use of guides/outfitters: I don't use them, but I see their place and the value for those that want to use them.
As for the use of guides/outfitters: I don't use them, but I see their place and the value for those that want to use them.
#16
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,230
Here's the deal, you and I have clashed horns twice and both times it was you, not I who instigated it by responding to a post that wasn't directed to you in the first place. Guess what, you're simply not worth the aggravation. Welcome to the "list" where I put all the unimportant people. Feel free to respond but I'll never see anything you post from here on out.
With that I leave this thread. Not worth a ban for this.
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#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,358
I've been on outfitted hunts for:
- rifle whitetail in North Carolina
- Archery Elk in Idaho
- Rifle Mule Deer/Pronghorn in WY
Here's my view: If you are going for Whitetail, based on what I saw, you will learn very little about actually hunting whitetail which involves mostly scouting and stand site selection/position. The guides will bring you/Guide you to a stand, leave you, then return for you and help with anything you may have shot.
Archery elk, with the right outfitter, you can learn TONS, this is a very different hunt than scouting for whitetail and sitting in a stand. It's more interactive, calling, run and gun, dynamic setup etc. Again, you may learn some about things and it really depends on the guide, how willing they are to share, your relationship with them etc. You CAN learn a lot to jump start your elk hunting knowledge.
Mule/Pronghorn, much like elk, you can pick the guides brain as you may be with them a lot or all the time (assuming it's not a bowhunt for pronghorn over water holes which case it becomes much like a whiltetail hunt.
So yes they can help, but you have to set your expectations. Even with a whitetail hunt you can learn TONS just by being in a position to get a shot, how to move, when to move, etc.
You can also learn a decent amount from books.
All that said, nothing beat boots on the ground and experience, it's a learning curve and the outfitters can mostly give you a boost, sometimes small, sometimes decent, but you will NOT become a knowledgeable successful "on your own" hunter by hunting with a guide.
- rifle whitetail in North Carolina
- Archery Elk in Idaho
- Rifle Mule Deer/Pronghorn in WY
Here's my view: If you are going for Whitetail, based on what I saw, you will learn very little about actually hunting whitetail which involves mostly scouting and stand site selection/position. The guides will bring you/Guide you to a stand, leave you, then return for you and help with anything you may have shot.
Archery elk, with the right outfitter, you can learn TONS, this is a very different hunt than scouting for whitetail and sitting in a stand. It's more interactive, calling, run and gun, dynamic setup etc. Again, you may learn some about things and it really depends on the guide, how willing they are to share, your relationship with them etc. You CAN learn a lot to jump start your elk hunting knowledge.
Mule/Pronghorn, much like elk, you can pick the guides brain as you may be with them a lot or all the time (assuming it's not a bowhunt for pronghorn over water holes which case it becomes much like a whiltetail hunt.
So yes they can help, but you have to set your expectations. Even with a whitetail hunt you can learn TONS just by being in a position to get a shot, how to move, when to move, etc.
You can also learn a decent amount from books.
All that said, nothing beat boots on the ground and experience, it's a learning curve and the outfitters can mostly give you a boost, sometimes small, sometimes decent, but you will NOT become a knowledgeable successful "on your own" hunter by hunting with a guide.