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Old 12-14-2013, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance View Post
Nope. And it don't matter what slug or how fast its going is irrelevant. The recoil begins the instant the powder begins to ignite, long before the projectile departs the barrel. And holding the weapon loosely will without question have an ill affect on the accuracy of that projectiles ability. You must maintain a snug hold upon that weapon, not gorilla grip it, just snug into the shoulder pocket by firmly pulling straight back into the shoulder by both the stock and forearm. Squeeze the shot off after aquiring correct sight picture.
Very interesting..
I have absolutely no problems with my .308.. When using match grade ammo I can chew out the center of the target at a couple hundred yards easy.

I fire both guns the same way..

While I have fired hundreds of .308 rounds in my lifetime, I have only fired several dozens of shotgun rounds.

I will try what you suggest and see what happens.. going to be a while however as there's three inches of blowing snow out there right now.
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Old 12-14-2013, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance View Post
Do you use a lead sled to sight in?
If you are asking if I'm using a gun vice, the answer is sort of.. I made a home-made unit that holds most of the gun (Rubber V in front, rubber pad on bottom of stock) but I still must hold it against my shoulder and aim..
I also have an elevation adjustment screw on the rubber V up front.
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Old 12-14-2013, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jerseyhunter View Post
Should have bought the cantilevered slug barrel for the 1100.
I got the cantilevered barrel on my new 870..
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Murby View Post
Very interesting..
I have absolutely no problems with my .308.. When using match grade ammo I can chew out the center of the target at a couple hundred yards easy.

I fire both guns the same way..

While I have fired hundreds of .308 rounds in my lifetime, I have only fired several dozens of shotgun rounds.

I will try what you suggest and see what happens.. going to be a while however as there's three inches of blowing snow out there right now.
Now it makes it real interesting. If you are able to fire these groups with your 308 at "a couple hundred yards", then you should have the working knowledge of how to properly hold a weapon for sight in purposes. I know that of us who shoot BenchRest, this method is slightly incorrect, but same animal. Give it a try and see what happens.
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Old 12-14-2013, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance View Post
Now it makes it real interesting. If you are able to fire these groups with your 308 at "a couple hundred yards", then you should have the working knowledge of how to properly hold a weapon for sight in purposes. I know that of us who shoot BenchRest, this method is slightly incorrect, but same animal. Give it a try and see what happens.
I'm no weapons specialist by any measure.. But I can shoot straight... Air Force gave me the marksmanship award for a perfect score on the range. I've never found it difficult to "point and shoot".. Aim, hold breath, apply continuous pressure to the trigger...

If it gets any more complicated than that, (humidity, temperature, wind, etc etc), then I'm lost at that point... Although I can compensate for gravity drop as needed.

I just would have never thought that firing a shotgun would be any different than firing a regular rifle.. I've never even heard anyone mention this fact so I find that a bit odd..

I'm going to take your advice next time I shoot but I am still finding it hard to believe that anything a human does differently from a regular rifle to a shotgun could possibly make any difference.. The chain of events happen so fast that I just can't imagine human technique having an influence that is significantly different between a shotgun and a rifle. But as I said, I'm no expert on the subject.

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Old 12-14-2013, 02:39 PM
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Nobody has said that the technique is any different between sighting in a shotgun and a rifle. What was said is that a gun should be pressed into the shoulder crease and you should have a decent hold on the front forearm area so the gun doesn't jump and basicly moves to the rear. You also shouldn't hold your breath when you shoot. You should be taking a nice breath as you are ready to squeeze the trigger and then gently let out the air as you do. Maybe you don't realize it and you're flinching due to the recoil of the shotgun and you don't when you shoot the .308. Who knows! Something else that hasn't been touched on is that when you bench rest a gun the forearm of the gun should be what is supported by a bag, etc. and not the barrel itself.

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Old 12-14-2013, 03:39 PM
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My 12g Encore with a ProHunter slug barrel will hold a very nice group at 100yds. But having said that my H&R Ultra slug 20g will peform just as nice at 1/3 the price. With either I wouldn't have a problem taking shots out to 150yds.
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Old 12-14-2013, 05:40 PM
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I'm new here to this forum and this was going to be one of my first questions. Good info.
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Old 12-14-2013, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Parrot Head View Post
I have the Savage 220 F in 20 an have killed them out to 220 yards an dropped them using 3 in Remington Accutip. I have it zeroed in at 200 yards. I bought it for long shots. I killed 4 deer with it this year at 136, 147, 177, an 80 yards none went farther than 30 yards great blood trail.
A friend of mine recently bought that Savage due to what your saying. Now I think I'm going to purchase one.
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Old 12-14-2013, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Murby View Post
I'm no weapons specialist by any measure.. But I can shoot straight... Air Force gave me the marksmanship award for a perfect score on the range. I've never found it difficult to "point and shoot".. Aim, hold breath, apply continuous pressure to the trigger...

If it gets any more complicated than that, (humidity, temperature, wind, etc etc), then I'm lost at that point... Although I can compensate for gravity drop as needed.

I just would have never thought that firing a shotgun would be any different than firing a regular rifle.. I've never even heard anyone mention this fact so I find that a bit odd..

I'm going to take your advice next time I shoot but I am still finding it hard to believe that anything a human does differently from a regular rifle to a shotgun could possibly make any difference.. The chain of events happen so fast that I just can't imagine human technique having an influence that is significantly different between a shotgun and a rifle. But as I said, I'm no expert on the subject.
Its pretty straight forward. The explosion is what creates recoil and the explosion happens before the slug leaves the barrel. Far more so with a shotgun than a rifle.

It does happen fast but it all happens fast not just the bullet leaving the barrel part.

What your talking about is pretty normal from my experience. The rifle is a lot more forgiving to it than the shotgun in question.

Stiffer recoil,slower bullet,and longer barrel
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