Hornady SST 1 hangfire, 2 misfires?
11-30-2011 | 04:56 PM
#11
Typical Buck
Joined: Mar 2010
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From: Northern Michigan
Not try'n to bust your balls Onion but....
Really?
Saw a buck this morning in the crp/cedar field, lost site of him as he meandered around.
About an hour later he pops out on the trail 15 yards broadside.
Put the crosshairs right in the kill zone, squeeze....CLICK!!!!
WTH look at my shells, yep 4 so I know it's loaded, as I'm looking down the gun goes off, buck runs off.
Oh man, get down hoping for a clean miss, nope I find hair.
Raining pretty steady so I get right on the trail he took, find no blood.
As I'm doubling back checking all the cross trails I see his rack across the creek, he's bedded down about 60 yards, alert and head up watching his back trail.
I put a tree between he and I, stalk within about 40 yds, get a good rest on the tree.
Whistle to get him to stand, he stands giving me a broadside shot, squeeze, CLICK!!!!!!!!!!
He's looking my direction, **** and squeeze again...CLICK!!!!
He bolts...
I walk down to his bed, no blood but there is some hair, head in the direction he went until I get to the property line, never find a drop of blood or other sign.
Return to the truck and jack another shell in, CLICK!!!
Went off on the second pull, so 1 hang fire and 2 misfires.
So.. gun, bad box of ammo?
I'm ruling out rain because the remaining shell hardly an indentation on the primer.
So it's either the gun or ammo.
Anyone hear of bad SSTs or an H&R USH having short strike issues?
Saw a buck this morning in the crp/cedar field, lost site of him as he meandered around.
About an hour later he pops out on the trail 15 yards broadside.
Put the crosshairs right in the kill zone, squeeze....CLICK!!!!
WTH look at my shells, yep 4 so I know it's loaded, as I'm looking down the gun goes off, buck runs off.
Oh man, get down hoping for a clean miss, nope I find hair.
Raining pretty steady so I get right on the trail he took, find no blood.
As I'm doubling back checking all the cross trails I see his rack across the creek, he's bedded down about 60 yards, alert and head up watching his back trail.
I put a tree between he and I, stalk within about 40 yds, get a good rest on the tree.
Whistle to get him to stand, he stands giving me a broadside shot, squeeze, CLICK!!!!!!!!!!
He's looking my direction, **** and squeeze again...CLICK!!!!
He bolts...
I walk down to his bed, no blood but there is some hair, head in the direction he went until I get to the property line, never find a drop of blood or other sign.
Return to the truck and jack another shell in, CLICK!!!
Went off on the second pull, so 1 hang fire and 2 misfires.
So.. gun, bad box of ammo?
I'm ruling out rain because the remaining shell hardly an indentation on the primer.
So it's either the gun or ammo.
Anyone hear of bad SSTs or an H&R USH having short strike issues?
11-30-2011 | 05:05 PM
#12
Spike
Joined: Dec 2010
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From: Central Texas
I had the same problem with the same brand of shells in 270 caliber. These high dollar shells aren't worth a darn. Out of eight shots fired, six failed to fire and the other two shot nice bucks. I went back to Remington and have had no problems. It's not the rifle, it's the bullet. I checked the primer strike and it matched the shells that fired and that is what lead me to believe that the shells were bad.
Last edited by topbuck1; 11-30-2011 at 05:07 PM. Reason: added information
11-30-2011 | 06:02 PM
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Fork Horn
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From: So. Indiana
You do know how an H&R ejects the shell right?
Had I ejected the shell straight away it may have well exploded in my face.
I had the same problem with the same brand of shells in 270 caliber. These high dollar shells aren't worth a darn. Out of eight shots fired, six failed to fire and the other two shot nice bucks. I went back to Remington and have had no problems. It's not the rifle, it's the bullet. I checked the primer strike and it matched the shells that fired and that is what lead me to believe that the shells were bad.
11-30-2011 | 08:13 PM
#14
Typical Buck
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From: Northern Michigan
uh yes,
I am well aware of weapon safety, hence the post.
12-02-2011 | 05:18 AM
#15
Fork Horn
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Hangfire
Most likely a hangfire is due to a gunked up sear stop or the trigger actuator rod. The hammer, under pressure from the spring is being blocked at the sear OR the trigger mechanism is being blocked before it can actuate the sear block.
Pull the trigger and the sear stop clears the sear, allowing the hammer spring to actuate the now released hammer. Once that hammer has spent the energy created by the spring, the firing pin cannot store energy. It is a free sliding component (in most modern firearms, your mileage may vary).
Look to the trigger assembly or the sear/sear block assembly.
My $.02
Pull the trigger and the sear stop clears the sear, allowing the hammer spring to actuate the now released hammer. Once that hammer has spent the energy created by the spring, the firing pin cannot store energy. It is a free sliding component (in most modern firearms, your mileage may vary).
Look to the trigger assembly or the sear/sear block assembly.
My $.02
12-02-2011 | 07:59 AM
#16
Typical Buck
Joined: Sep 2009
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From: Fulton county,IL
Those who know me know I have more than a few H&R single shots and 4 USHs. I bought my first USH when released in 1995(?6) and all of my USHs have been shot extensively so yes, I have experienced some misfires.
I will say that the ammo that I experienced the most misfires from was Remington. Both sluggers I use for light target practice and BuckHammers too.
The primer indentations were faint.
What did I learn from this?
First is that single shots are the often overlooked in terms of cleaning and maintenance. Most guys will clean the barrel really well because it is so accessible and then just kinda surface clean the action of powder and then lube it up resulting in essentially coagulated oil/powder surrounding the firing pin. It has to be thoroughly cleaned and I do not use regular oil on my H&Rs I use LPS Dry Lube because it kinda goes on "wet" and dries to a film that does not attract dirt (or powder).
OK that is that. Now on to the ammo which when it comes to that Remington poop, the primer is set too deep. I have seen enough of this with all types of shotguns.
Lay a straight edge over a few different brands of slugs and see which have either the primers set deeply of the entire brass appearing concave. Check the slugs before loading them.
If you or anyone else with an USH want some advice here it is. Disassemble the ejector and block hone both sides a bit to a nicer finish than they have from the factory. The honing can be accomplished in minutes. Clean everything up real well and reassemble. You may or may not want to add a spacer BB under the spring to give it some more pop upon ejection.
Should you want to reload quickly sometime and that shell doesn't eject.......
I will say that the ammo that I experienced the most misfires from was Remington. Both sluggers I use for light target practice and BuckHammers too.
The primer indentations were faint.
What did I learn from this?
First is that single shots are the often overlooked in terms of cleaning and maintenance. Most guys will clean the barrel really well because it is so accessible and then just kinda surface clean the action of powder and then lube it up resulting in essentially coagulated oil/powder surrounding the firing pin. It has to be thoroughly cleaned and I do not use regular oil on my H&Rs I use LPS Dry Lube because it kinda goes on "wet" and dries to a film that does not attract dirt (or powder).
OK that is that. Now on to the ammo which when it comes to that Remington poop, the primer is set too deep. I have seen enough of this with all types of shotguns.
Lay a straight edge over a few different brands of slugs and see which have either the primers set deeply of the entire brass appearing concave. Check the slugs before loading them.
If you or anyone else with an USH want some advice here it is. Disassemble the ejector and block hone both sides a bit to a nicer finish than they have from the factory. The honing can be accomplished in minutes. Clean everything up real well and reassemble. You may or may not want to add a spacer BB under the spring to give it some more pop upon ejection.
Should you want to reload quickly sometime and that shell doesn't eject.......
