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Old 01-12-2011, 08:35 PM
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we use 55gr remi core locks...drop in their tracks
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:44 AM
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I don't see why people are all upset at the thought of smaller calibers being used.

In the end, a larger caliber just gives you a little more room for error within the kill zone. Let's be realistic here, if you can make a kill shot with a 308, you can make a kill shot with a 223.

Deer hunting is more about knowing your gun, and the limitations you have with it over anything else. If overall power was all that important, then bow hunters would never take any large game...
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheridan
.30-06 for elephants ?

Sound like a good idea ??
Modern writers on the internet and in magazine articles have tended to refer to him and his tally of elephants in this vein, “He shot most of his 1000 elephants with a 7x57mm rifle” or words to that effect. In fact, Walter Bell killed 1011 elephants with a 7x57 in the course of his career.

Shot placement, Shot placement, Shot placement...
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:08 AM
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In Alabama it is legal to use a spear for hunting whitetails, but you won't catch me using a spear or a .223.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:18 AM
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Default The Testimony of the Wounding Shooter

We need more of their testimony. If a bullet has a great chance to just wound a deer, it's a .223.

Just in playing the odds, it is always to the advantage of the hunter, to drop a deer on the spot. I still recall a shooter who wounded a deer, to track it to a 30-30 hunter, gutting the deer, who dropped the moving deer on the spot.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:37 AM
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The (former, it is # 3 now) Idaho state record non typical whitetail, 257 6/8" B&C was killed with a 22-250 at over 500 yards by John Powers.

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Old 01-13-2011, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Valentine
We need more of their testimony. If a bullet has a great chance to just wound a deer, it's a .223.

Just in playing the odds, it is always to the advantage of the hunter, to drop a deer on the spot. I still recall a shooter who wounded a deer, to track it to a 30-30 hunter, gutting the deer, who dropped the moving deer on the spot.
puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-leeeezzeee
my 12 year old daughter drops deer in their tracks with a 223 using a 55gr corelock from remi....
just because a 12 year old girl is a better shot than yourself, doesnt mean nobody should use a 223.
gimme a break!!!
my buddies who shoot 30-06's, 308 and 300's, are all going to buy a 223, just because they have seen 1st hand that the deer fall right where they were, and the meat damage is 1/3 of their rifles.
shot placement is everything!!!
if a 12y/o can do it, so can you? well, maybe not!!!!
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Old 01-13-2011, 08:09 AM
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If you are 100% committed to shot placement with the proper type of bullet then a .223 is fine. I personally would never recommend one just for the simple fact that a lot of things can happen to take away that perfect shot. I have worked in gun sales and the hunting industry for many years and know first hand that a large percentage of the rifle hunters in the woods are all to eager to rush a shot, shoot through, obstructions, or take shots at distances that are farther than what should be attempted. They then blame there lost or wounded deer on the gun, the wind, the tree brances, etc. So yes, if you have a totally unobstructed shot at very moderate distances then the .223 is ok, but for the a huge percentage of the hunters in the woods today it is not the right gun. Of course there are a huge percentage of hunter to whom no gun is the right gun because they just don't care about shot placement and ethical, legitimate hunting practices. I have met hundreds of guys who insist on the 300 Weatherby Mag just so that when they make a bad shot it will still do lots of damage.
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Old 01-13-2011, 08:10 AM
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1) Just ask the game the hunter wants to kill to stand perfectly still.
2) Ask the hunter pulling the trigger not to shake a little - because his dream buck is standing in front of him.
3) Ask mother nature to keep the wind down to a minimum.
4) Ask the hunter to make an ethical choice...

Long list of "ifs" to be considered a realistic question!
But YES hypothetically speaking.

Heck - I would consider my 1,000 FPS air gun enough with a "perfectly" placed shot.
Ok - maybe a .22
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Old 01-13-2011, 04:25 PM
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A whole thread with ar15 223 deer kills. Looks like it can't be done.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...&f=23&t=605991
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